Covid vaccination vs death in EHPAD. A real and rapid vaccine efficacy test on fragile people in nursing homes

[Christophe]

The clusters in EMS and EHPAD yet vaccinated: health-pollution-prevention / covid-vaccination-makes-positive-for-covid-tests-t16686-30.html # p430077

It is not very conclusive the vaccine effectiveness in real conditions on the fragile !!

But shhh, don't say it ... otherwise we're a neo-Nazi conspirator ...

There is not a day without a cluster appearing in an EMS in the world!

So what are the latest figures in Israel?

[ABC2019]

The clusters in EMS and EHPAD yet vaccinated: health-pollution-prevention / covid-vaccination-makes-positive-for-covid-tests-t16686-30.html # p430077

well at my mother's nursing home they only made the 2nd injection on February 9, the protection is only 50% a few weeks after the first injection, so of course yes you can find clusters even after the start vaccination.

[Obamot]

whereas the PCR tests used were considered reliable.

(must be said quickly ...)

[Janic]

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well at my mother's nursing home they only made the 2nd injection on February 9, the protection is only 50% a few weeks after the first injection, so of course yes you can find clusters even after the start vaccination.

oh, the big laugh with your "sources" that you take seriously.
This kind of talk has been around since Jenner and Pasteur to explain their successes and failures. Looks like these current ads on beauty products: “ 78% of women who tried it were satisfied »You are not satisfied, it is because you are one of the rare 22% in question… but no one investigates to find out if these 22% are not in reality 78% of not satisfied, that is the method Coué or placebo!
So, my lady, you caught the virus because you had no luck and you were in the 50% failure, but if you haven't, it's because our vaccine is effective. Thus the remaining 50%, not having been contaminated, sick, hospitalized, because their immune system has preserved them, will be able to receive the second dose (assuming it is also non-toxic) which in any case was of no use to them, since they weren't sick, THEY. And presto, nice sleight of hand: The art and the way to claim a major success! Pasteur had given us the blow and the old crappy recipes, it continues to make the buzz.
And above all, the end of the end, in the statistics the people who received a single dose, will be classified as NOT vaccinated, another sleight of hand!

[Christophe]

Oh yes the vaccine works well ...

https://www.ouest-france.fr/bretagne/pl ... on-7158970

https://www.letelegramme.fr/finistere/m ... 706168.php

Covid-19. A cluster in an Ehpad in Finistère, despite vaccination

Twelve cases of Covid-19, out of sixteen residents, were detected in the protected unit of the Kreizker nursing home, in Plouigneau (Finistère). A massive screening campaign is being carried out this Thursday, February 18, 2021. The establishment will remain closed until March 24. Residents had just received their second dose of the coronavirus vaccine.

https://www.ladepeche.fr/2021/02/18/ger ... 381153.php

https://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/iss ... d-issoudun

[Christophe]

: " 78% of women who tried it were satisfied »You are not satisfied, it is because you are one of the rare 22% in question… but no one investigates to find out if these 22% are not in reality 78% of not satisfied, that is the method Coué or placebo!

Janic!!

We told you to stop maths !!

Pity !!

[Janic]

Janic!!
We told you to stop maths !!
Pity !!

These are not math, but advertising techniques applicable to all areas of business. Do you believe the ads?

[sicetaitsimple]

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[Janic]

Ah, the art and manner of "fiddling with the interpretation of statistics."
We can see that once the peak has passed, there is a sudden drop in mortality (without vaccines) then stabilizes around 150 that vaccination does not decrease, and it should therefore continue to fall to regain its October low, with or without vaccines.
Statistics are good, its tendentious interpretation, in an obvious cheating! They do it every time!

[ABC2019]

Ah, the art and manner of "fiddling with the interpretation of statistics."
We can see that once the peak has passed, there is a sudden drop in mortality (without vaccines) then stabilizes around 150 that vaccination does not decrease, and it should therefore continue to fall to regain its October low, with or without vaccines.
Statistics are good, its tendentious interpretation, in an obvious cheating! They do it every time!

it is however very visible that the end of the curve is very different from that of the overall mortality, and that the only essential difference is in the vaccination rate.