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Re: Covid: Sars-Cov2 mutations and variants, evolution, immunity, treatments, vaccines?




by izentrop » 04/07/21, 10:25

humus wrote:"Let's not make a cure worse than the disease": the essential interview, with Christian Vélot
You gobble Vélot's nonsense on pear rinser? Yet he is a specialist, with Séralini in imaginary studies : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 04/07/21, 10:36

All is well ... in the disinformation among pro vax ...

Any unvaccinated person will be contaminated by the Delta variant ", alerts the general manager of ARS Nouvelle-Aquitaine

https://www.bfmtv.com/sante/tensions-ho ... 30122.html

AND Israel is re-fining just for fun?
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by Janic » 04/07/21, 10:42

izentrop »04 / 07 / 21, 10: 25
humus wrote:
"Let's not make a cure worse than the disease": the essential interview, with Christian Vélot

You gobble Vélot's nonsense on pear rinser? Yet he is a specialist, with Séralini in imaginary studies : Mrgreen:
and it is, of course, our world specialist in biology who says that! Funny first person who does not even have basic knowledge in this area but who perishes like a rooster perched on his usual pile of manure that is pseudozetetics.
Be at least concrete by indicating with precision the points that your immense knowledge disputes rather than being only in vomit. : Shock:
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by izentrop » 04/07/21, 10:55

Christophe wrote:AND Israel is re-fining just for fun?
Did you see that or?
After reinstating the obligation to wear a mask indoors, the government is now raising the possibility of new confinement.
This is not yet the case
the very high vaccination rate should limit the spread of the most severe forms of the disease, Israeli doctors say.
"We are still one of the most heavily vaccinated countries, which gives us the opportunity to take more moderate decisions than a few months ago when faced with the Delta variant."
https://www.courrierinternational.com/a ... onfinement
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by Janic » 04/07/21, 11:07

bis repetita tareduzizi
You gobble Vélot's nonsense on pear rinser? Yet he is a specialist, with Séralini in imaginary studies : Mrgreen:
and it is, of course, our world specialist in biology who says that! Funny first person who does not even have basic knowledge in this area but who perishes like a rooster perched on his usual pile of manure that is pseudozetetics.
Be at least concrete by indicating with precision the points that your immense knowledge disputes rather than being only in vomit.
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by izentrop » 04/07/21, 12:53

Janic wrote:Be at least concrete by indicating with precision the points that your immense knowledge disputes rather than being only in vomit.
Only the quoted sentence "Let us not make a cure worse than the evil" is enough to realize that what will follow can only be gulba gulba : Wink:
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Re: Covid: Sars-Cov2 mutations and variants, evolution, immunity, treatments, vaccines?




by Janic » 04/07/21, 13:20

izentrop »04 / 07 / 21, 12: 53
Janic wrote:
Be at least concrete by indicating with precision the points that your immense knowledge disputes rather than being only in vomit.

Only the quoted sentence "Let us not make a cure worse than the evil" is enough to realize that what will follow can only be gulba gulba
yeah! You can feel the real scientist who only believes what he can verify on the spot. With these kinds of zozos, we are sure that la science is in good hands, along with the other PDs! : Cry:
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by Christophe » 05/07/21, 10:08

The Delta is has been ... here is the ETA variant and it stinks because it is very lethal according to Vetus! Hope it is less contagious?

VetusLignum wrote:The variant Eta is the second variant in Algeria, and it is much more lethal than the others (perhaps 30 times more than the Delta variant ((Indian).

https://www.afro.who.int/sites/default/ ... 062021.pdf
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ing_17.pdf


What is this virus shit !!

I save here the 2 .pdf
Sitrep 453_24062021.pdf
(270.67 KB) Downloaded times 230

Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf
(7.28 million) Downloaded times 334


Uh Vetus, we speak on the CFR or IFR because if it is CFR it increases the lethality to more than 60% !!
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by Christophe » 05/07/21, 10:30

Christophe wrote:The Delta is has been ... here is the ETA variant and it stinks because it is very lethal according to Vetus! Hope it is less contagious?

VetusLignum wrote:The variant Eta is the second variant in Algeria, and it is much more lethal than the others (perhaps 30 times more than the Delta variant ((Indian).

https://www.afro.who.int/sites/default/ ... 062021.pdf
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ing_17.pdf


Uh, I skimmed over the 2 .pdf files and here is the interesting information I found there ...

ETA is 30 times more lethal than DELTA, but DELTA is particularly low LETAL ...

On the other hand, it is 50 to 100% more than the ALPHA variant (English)


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Also the Delta mainly affects young people in England:

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by Christophe » 05/07/21, 10:32

As well :

VOC, VOI, VUM: how are variants classified?

The variants are classified into three categories according to their risks:

Variant of concern, or VOC ("variant of concern" in English): variant for which it has been shown by comparison with one or more reference viruses: An increase in transmissibility or an unfavorable impact on the epidemiology of COVID-19, such as, for example, an escape from natural post-infection immunity; An increase in severity or change in clinical presentation; A decrease in the effectiveness of the control and prevention measures put in place (diagnostic tests, vaccines, therapeutic molecules).

Variant to follow, or VOI ("variant under investigation" or "variant of interest" in English): variant characterized by a phenotypic change compared to a reference virus or mutations which lead to changes in amino acids associated with implications phenotypic confirmed or suspected AND Responsible for community transmission or multiple confirmed cases or clusters, or has been detected in multiple countries.

Variant under evaluation, or VUM ("variant under monitoring"): absence of virological, epidemiological or clinical evidence supporting an impact on public health in France or internationally, despite the presence of shared mutations with one or more variants of concern / to follow.


https://sante.journaldesfemmes.fr/fiche ... -covid-voc
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