Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found it like HIV AIDS?

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Number of doses ordered for Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, data from Duke Global Health Institute Center as of November 11, 2020 (AFP /)

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[ABC2019]

uh sorry? I ask you "how do you go about choosing if it is true or false?" , and you take that for an insult?

uh, sorry! are you sure you follow the subject?

absolutely, that's why I don't understand what you're saying, which seems to me to deviate completely from it, I don't see where you see an insult in my request.

no, but scientists are not pork butchers, they know the general methods of science, and they are perfectly capable of judging whether it is applied seriously or not, because the criteria are quite simple: existence of verified observations, with a correct statistical treatment, description of documented protocols, known history of subsequent discoveries, who made them and under what circumstances ... all these criteria are very easy to verify and do not require any in-depth knowledge of the field .

All professions have methods, but they are not the same for everyone. Idem A vs H!
How beautiful is YOUR vision of YOUR science. Except that YOUR scientists in A, in question, have no competence to apply this kind of methods to a science other than theirs which is H.

you are saying it, but it is completely false. It's precisely because we have established rules General of the scientific spirit that new sciences could appear gradually, with different fields, but always with the same method: neither electromagnetism, nor thermodynamics, nor Relativity, nor quantum mechanics, nor genetics existed enlightenment, but they all emerged with the same methods.

And repeating something wrong over and over again doesn't make it true.

[ABC2019]

So it is a common practice in politics to make this type of cut to give the impression that a certain politician said - (and with these cuts it seems fair) but not at all when the totality of a document is respected. Your other alterego Pedro is a specialist.

well if you're convinced that what he says has been transformed, then be clear, for once: does he think that an amputated arm can grow back or not?

are you still going to find out how to write 30 lines so as not to answer the question?

[Obamot]

In this case it is YOU who does not answer! Don't reverse the roles yet!

Yet it was easy to answer ... are you ok with that?

Fluid mechanics
Fluid mechanics is the branch of physics concerned with the mechanics of fluids (liquids, gases, and plasmas) and the forces on them. It has applications in a wide range of disciplines, including mechanical, civil, chemical and biomedical engineering, geophysics, oceanography, meteorology, astrophysics, and biology.
It can be divided into fluid statics, the study of fluids at rest; and fluid dynamics, the study of the effect of forces on fluid motion.

[Janic]

ABC2019 »21/11/20, 17:37

Janic wrote:
uh, sorry! are you sure you follow the subject?

absolutely, that's why I don't understand what you're saying, which seems to me to deviate completely from it, I don't see where you see an insult in my request.

The insult in question, so follow the course of the discussion, concerns those you uttered against C and against the doctors H, ONLY. Otherwise it's just part of a pleasant discussion.

no, but scientists are not pork butchers, (… ..)
All professions have methods, but they are not the same for everyone. Idem A vs H!

How beautiful is YOUR vision of YOUR science. Except that YOUR scientists in A, in question, have no competence to apply this kind of methods to a science other than theirs which is H.

you are saying it, but it is completely false.

as you say;
"And repeating something wrong over and over again doesn't make it true."nor the other way around!
but, it is not from me, but from the doctors H who dispute the specific methods applied to the A and that these A would like to see applied, as they are, to the H.

It is precisely because we have established general rules of the scientific spirit that new sciences have been able to appear gradually, with different fields,

You said it: different!
The H also has its own scientific methods applied to their specialty, otherwise any vascular surgeon could be replaced, at short notice, by an oncologist, by an allergist, a gynecologist or a nephrologist, even a dermatologist.

And repeating something wrong over and over again doesn't make it true.

You said bloated!

[ABC2019]

In this case it is YOU who does not answer! Don't reverse the roles yet!

Yet it was easy to answer ... are you ok with that?

Fluid mechanics
Fluid mechanics is the branch of physics concerned with the mechanics of fluids (liquids, gases, and plasmas) and the forces on them. It has applications in a wide range of disciplines, including mechanical, civil, chemical and biomedical engineering, geophysics, oceanography, meteorology, astrophysics, and biology.
It can be divided into fluid statics, the study of fluids at rest; and fluid dynamics, the study of the effect of forces on fluid motion.

you ask me how many DYNAMICS of fluids there are and then you give me a link which details two areas of MECHANICS of fluids, namely, statics and ... dynamics!






my poor Obamot, stop posting anything to make noise, it will be a vacation for everyone!

[ABC2019]

ABC2019 »21/11/20, 17:37

Janic wrote:
uh, sorry! are you sure you follow the subject?

absolutely, that's why I don't understand what you're saying, which seems to me to deviate completely from it, I don't see where you see an insult in my request.

The insult in question, so follow the course of the discussion, concerns those you uttered against C and against the doctors H, ONLY.

except that suddenly you did not answer the question of how you decided between what is true and false, you started to speak of insult for no reason.

So I stay with my question: on what criteria do you base yourself to say that something is fake news?

as you say;
"And repeating something wrong over and over again doesn't make it true."nor the other way around!
but, it is not from me, but from the doctors H who dispute the specific methods applied to the A and that these A would like to see applied, as they are, to the H.

therefore they recognize that H. does not apply standard scientific methods (which are not just "applied to A." but which are standard methods which characterize the scientific process as a whole).

So we come back to the same question as above: if it is not the standard scientific methods that are used, then which method is used?

It is precisely because we have established general rules of the scientific spirit that new sciences have been able to appear gradually, with different fields,

You said it: different!

I said different fields but the verification method is the same: comparison with the observations with universal criteria of statistical validity. The methods of data analysis, for example, are the same in all fields of science.

The H also has its own scientific methods applied to their specialty,

sorry but it doesn't exist, except in H.'s imagination and yours.

So here if you were looking for the reason why I don't believe in H., you just found it.

[Janic]

therefore they recognize that H. does not apply standard scientific methods (which are not just "applied to A." but which are standard methods which characterize the scientific process as a whole).

Hs are like all scientists, they apply the methods in question like all scientists, just as an aviation engineer applies the same methods as mariners. This being clearly established, each specialty being different from the others, one cannot apply the specific rules of the navy to the aviation, nor the reverse. You understand that or you have to draw a picture.

So we come back to the same question as above: if it is not the standard scientific methods that are used, then which method is used

rebelotte, see above! the studies and mechanical methods of these two professions are the same, laws of physics, mechanics, fluidics, etc ..., but no sailor will manage to make a ship fly (otherwise it would be known!) because each profession has to its own specific criteria applied to its specialty.
Idem A vs H!

The H also has its own scientific methods applied to their specialty,

sorry but it doesn't exist, except in H.'s imagination and yours.

mechanics do not seem to be your strong point, nor medicine!
Oh dear ; what an idiot! try to fly a ship with your stupid criteria. And here I was looking for the reason why you don't understand a thing, I just found it

[ABC2019]

therefore they recognize that H. does not apply standard scientific methods (which are not just "applied to A." but which are standard methods which characterize the scientific process as a whole).

Hs are like all scientists, they apply the methods in question like all scientists, just as an aviation engineer applies the same methods as mariners. This being clearly established, each specialty being different from the others, one cannot apply the specific rules of the navy to aviation, nor vice versa.

the rules I told you about are not specific to navy, aviation, or optics or thermodynamics: they are basic methods common to all scientists.

If H. applied them, that would be considered scientific results, and there would be no reason to reject it. The only reason to reject it is precisely because they don't apply them, and worse claim not to apply them.

And you are like them, since every other time you say that the scientific method is good, and every other time you reproach scientists for being obsessed with their method, which is obviously contradictory, but with you it is usual. It's like the arm that can push back or can't push back what.

mechanics do not seem to be your strong point, nor medicine!
Oh dear ; what an idiot! try to fly a ship with your stupid criteria. And here I was looking for the reason why you don't understand a thing, I just found it

decidedly you're completely blocked to understand what "scientific method" means. And since you can't understand what it consists of, it's normal that you don't understand why we reject H.

[ABC2019]

in fact, for 10 months that we have had the epidemic, has the H. method found a cure against covid-19?