Opinions about Covid vaccines, immunity, side effects and immunology

[izentrop]

izentrop wrote:
3. * We can cite in particular: Dr. Luc Montagnier, Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Dr. Alexandra Henrion-Caude, Dr. Malone, Dr. Christian Perronne, Pr. Raoult, Dr. Judy Mikovits, Dr. Christian Vélot, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Nicole Delépine, Dr. S. Immanuel, Pr. Henri Joyeux, Dr. Lee Merritt, Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Dr. Fouché, Dr. De Chazournes, Dr. Hodkinson, Dr. Philippe de Chazournes, Dr. Jane Ruby, Dr. McCullough ...

And the other moron who, surpassing himself in stupidity like every day, copies / pastes a note without showing anything else, whereas they (in the article) do not claim anything other than that (which is a absolute truth that we have seen):
* Almost all virologists, doctors and scientists [3] which question the strategy of "vaccination" ...

Precisely, clue 3 is the bunch of confusionists that I cited ... People who have no credibility, except for the antivax. Moreover, most have been discredited for their words without tail or head ... We will say that

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Cretin first does not understand ...
I rest:

(They) are systematically belittled, ignored or rejected in so-called "fact-checking" articles (which are more than questionable) in the pay of the mainstream media: some journalists use all means to tarnish their reputation by searching their private life, their friendships to pass them off as "conspirators" who would have fallen into dementia.

THESE ARE FACTS, not a value judgment.

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[Robob]

Here is a new one in the list of EHPAD clusters:
https://www.ouest-france.fr/pays-de-la- ... ec8da29c4d
24 Covid cases were detected among residents, including one person who died from the virus
With a "complete vaccination schedule", since the third dose of vaccine was administered to residents "between September 27 and October 3", and "excellent vaccination coverage", the establishment, with a capacity of 67 places, "gave himself every chance" to manage the situation in the best conditions, estimates the director.

Hey yes all the chances, they gave themselves.
24 out of 67 places, if they are all occupied, that makes 36%.

[ABC2019]

Here is a new one in the list of EHPAD clusters:
https://www.ouest-france.fr/pays-de-la- ... ec8da29c4d
24 Covid cases were detected among residents, including one person who died from the virus
With a "complete vaccination schedule", since the third dose of vaccine was administered to residents "between September 27 and October 3", and "excellent vaccination coverage", the establishment, with a capacity of 67 places, "gave himself every chance" to manage the situation in the best conditions, estimates the director.

Hey yes all the chances, they gave themselves.
24 out of 67 places, if they are all occupied, that makes 36%.

and one in 67 deaths is 1,5%, much less than during the first wave for this age group ...

[Remundo]

it's funny, there you do not see any confounding factor?

[ABC2019]

it's funny, there you do not see any confounding factor?

there may be, but I do not see too much ... but hey it is obviously not a very significant statistic, I just do robob there

[Remundo]

the confounding factor is simple and enormous: they are not at all the same variants between now and the first wave.

the comparison of the rates does not therefore make it possible to conclude absolutely nothing about the effectiveness of current vaccines in terms of reduction in mortality.

when we also know that macchins do not prevent infection or transmission.

And that some of them were banned because of serious side effects ...

What a success!

[sicetaitsimple]

the confounding factor is simple and enormous: they are not at all the same variants between now and the first wave.

the comparison of the rates does not therefore make it possible to conclude absolutely nothing about the effectiveness of current vaccines in terms of reduction in mortality.

Yes, indeed the virus has evolved. On the other hand (source DREES), from 20 to 26/09:
"During this week, the number of unvaccinated patients entering critical care decreases: it is 14 per 1 million unvaccinated people against 18 the previous week. Unvaccinated people represent 77% of care admissions critics and 74% of admissions to conventional hospitalization (respectively 78% and 74% last week), while they are only 26% among the entire resident population.

In addition, there are 10 deaths per 1 million (11 the previous week) of unvaccinated people against 1 for those who are fully vaccinated (2 the previous week). There are therefore about 8 times more deaths in unvaccinated people than in fully vaccinated people with a comparable population size during the period considered. "

[Remundo]

should see this by age group

but I am willing to admit that the macchin decreases mortality in the elderly and co-morbid patients.

[Obamot]

should see this by age group

but I am willing to admit that the macchin decreases mortality in the elderly and co-morbid patients.

The problem is that it symmetrically lowers their immunity!
There are therefore great risks to the thing being injected, with the result of worsening the comorbidities (in the long term) therefore with an early asynchronous death, therefore unverifiable, for a benefit. russian roulette type ...

The genes should immediately be withdrawn from the market, and that is what is likely to happen, as soon as it will no longer be possible to get the good people to swallow the scheme ...

It starts to do well ...

What the ANSM report says (among other examples):

- the risk of thrombosis is:
=> "Multiplied by 5 during pregnancy" (especially in the 3rd trimester), and
=> multiplied "by 60 during the first 3 months after birth"

But being pregnant or having recently given birth is not a 'vaccine contraindication', and getting vaccinated is always recommended.

https://ansm.sante.fr/uploads/2021/08/0 ... -vfa-2.pdf