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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by Janic » 02/08/21, 09:18

from which it emerges this:
Monitoring at the hospital (Oscour®, SI-VIC and intensive care unit of the CHU): 72 emergency visits for suspicion ofCovid-19 in week 2021-29 (3,2% of total activity) against 32 in week 2021-28 (1,5% of total activity), 27 new hospitalizations (22 the previous week) including 7 in resuscitation (1 in week 2021-28). As of July 30, 2021, 118 patients were
still hospitalized including 22 in intensive care, 2 in USCI and 62 in conventional.
Mortality monitoring (SI-VIC and EuroMoMo): in week 2021-29, three new deaths were recorded in a hospital department (compared to 2 in week 2021-28). Between July 26 and July 30, no deaths were recorded. No excess mortality, all ages and all causes of death recorded has been observed since mid-October (week 2020-43).
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by ABC2019 » 02/08/21, 09:24

Janic wrote:from which it emerges this:
Monitoring at the hospital (Oscour®, SI-VIC and intensive care unit of the CHU): 72 emergency visits for suspicion ofCovid-19 in week 2021-29 (3,2% of total activity) against 32 in week 2021-28 (1,5% of total activity), 27 new hospitalizations (22 the previous week) including 7 in resuscitation (1 in week 2021-28). As of July 30, 2021, 118 patients were
still hospitalized including 22 in intensive care, 2 in USCI and 62 in conventional.
Mortality monitoring (SI-VIC and EuroMoMo): in week 2021-29, three new deaths were recorded in a hospital department (compared to 2 in week 2021-28). Between July 26 and July 30, no deaths were recorded. No excess mortality, all ages and all causes of death recorded has been observed since mid-October (week 2020-43).


There are three weeks on average between the date of infection and the date of death.

See you at the end of August Janic ...
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by Obamot » 02/08/21, 09:35

No need to wait ...

Because you still haven't answered if you considered 3 deaths here and there in 3 months as an “epidemic outbreak”?

(I'm already laughing while waiting for your future and FASCINATING non-response) : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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by Janic » 02/08/21, 12:26

There are three weeks on average between the date of infection and the date of death
like with vaccines somehow.
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by ABC2019 » 02/08/21, 13:26

Obamot wrote:No need to wait ...

Because you still haven't answered if you considered 3 deaths here and there in 3 months as an “epidemic outbreak”?

(I'm already laughing while waiting for your future and FASCINATING non-response) : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

the epidemic outbreak is when the number of cases grows exponentially, so it's not "3 deaths here and there in 3 months".
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by Janic » 02/08/21, 13:41

the epidemic outbreak is when the number of cases grows exponentially, so it's not "3 deaths here and there in 3 months".
it is therefore good that there is no epidemic outbreak in this case!
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by ABC2019 » 02/08/21, 13:52

Janic wrote:
the epidemic outbreak is when the number of cases grows exponentially, so it's not "3 deaths here and there in 3 months".
it is therefore good that there is no epidemic outbreak in this case!

well yes, we are growing exponentially at the moment.
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by Remundo » 02/08/21, 13:52

GillABC2019 has been drunk for over a month with its diverge exponentials, time lags, probabilities, R0 and blah blah.

the number of cases does not mean much.

the ENTIRE month of July passed in dead calm. And yet there have been tench everywhere and trips etc ... even a few million double vaccinated morons walking around thinking they are at the forefront of health security even though they were infected and spread the virus asymptomatically.

Humility with COVID is admitting that there is absolutely nothing to predict epidemic dynamics ... COVID does not allow itself to be put into a mathematical box ...

but we noticed the emergence of new epidemics / variants in the offseason. Finally nothing very new.

therefore the urgency is not to piss off the French with macchins and a bewildering dictatorship dispossessing them of their bodies and even of their profession.

the urgency is to strengthen hospitals, hire staff, buy equipment, and develop treatments. Put the energy and the money where they are useful, ie neither in the fracturing of France, nor in the big pockets of certain laboratories.

continue the barrier gestures.

The macchins as the third crutch, based on the benefit / risk assessment for each patient. Knowing that this crutch will always be shaky as were the vaccines against the seasonal flu because of the highly mutant / recombinant nature of these viruses.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 02/08/21, 14:29

The emergency (almost two years):

It is to heal !!! No vaccination ...
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by ABC2019 » 02/08/21, 15:22

Remundo wrote:GillABC2019 has been drunk for over a month with its diverge exponentials, time lags, probabilities, R0 and blah blah.

the number of cases does not mean much.

the ENTIRE month of July was spent in dead calm.

yes, because fragile people have been vaccinated, so the CFR (the number of deaths per case) is much lower. And so the death curve also increased exponentially, but with a smaller overall amplitude, and was hidden longer by the decreasing curve of the previous variant (alpha). This explains why the number of deaths took longer to take off.

It's very easy to understand, but obviously you get drunk trying to understand.
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