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by Obamot » 29/07/21, 13:16

The effectiveness of machinery-vaccines plummets, 95% ... 86% ... 55% ... 40% ... 16% ...

It's crazy, I am not vaccinated and the efficiency of my immune system is 100% ...

How do I do ?
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Macro »29/07/21, 14:22
Continue the treatment….
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Janic wrote:Macro »29/07/21, 14:22
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Yours.
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by ABC2019 » 30/07/21, 05:52

Christophe wrote:Another bitch of a neo-Nazi far-right nurse ... definitely ... : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

it is quite normal if the risks of the vaccine are not zero, but it is effective against the covid, that in the end there are more deaths from the vaccine than from the covid - that does not invalidate the analysis benefit risk, especially since it is likely that those who die from the vaccine also had a high risk of dying from covid. But I have nowhere heard that hospital wards are overwhelmed as with covid, when the number of people vaccinated is now much greater than the number of people infected - it just goes to show that the risk is much lower with the vaccine. .
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by pedrodelavega » 30/07/21, 07:18

Christophe wrote:Another bitch of a neo-Nazi far-right nurse ... definitely ... : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:


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by Janic » 30/07/21, 07:47

abcdebileetidiot
He is told over and over again that it is normal that there are more and more victims of the vaccine because of its dangerousness which is revealed at that time. and what does he say now:
it is quite normal if the risks of the vaccine are not zero, but it is effective against covid, that at the end there is more deaths vaccine only covid -
you finally said puffy!
it does not invalidate the risk benefit analysis
, It shows above all that the benefit is zero compared to the risk
especially since it is probable that those who die from the vaccine also had a high risk of dying from covid.
De la Palice could not have said better this evidence, which has been repeated to him from the beginning that those who die with or without a vaccine were as much at risk of dying from the covid.
But nowhere did I hear that hospital wards were overwhelmed like with covid,
ah, the bastard! Of course, since before the vaccine, the most vulnerable had already been hospitalized or died, which has reduced those arriving now by as much and will continue to reduce them because "and the fight stopped for lack of fighters"since the most fragile and co-morbidities have decreased as much without a vaccine
while the number of people vaccinated is now much greater than the number of people infected - this proves that the risk is much lower with the vaccine.
other La Paliçade! Once the glass is almost empty, it is much less full! the nullard from nullard! : Evil:
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by ABC2019 » 30/07/21, 08:36

izentrop wrote:A nice skewer of clowns : Mrgreen:

we have the same at home : roll:
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by ABC2019 » 30/07/21, 08:44

Janic wrote:abcdebileetidiot
He is told over and over again that it is normal that there are more and more victims of the vaccine because of its dangerousness which is revealed at that time. and what does he say now:
it is quite normal if the risks of the vaccine are not zero, but it is effective against covid, that at the end there is more deaths vaccine only covid -
you finally said puffy!
it does not invalidate the risk benefit analysis
, It shows above all that the benefit is zero compared to the risk

absolutely not, the benefit / risk does not consist in comparing vaccine deaths with deaths due to covid when we vaccinated , but vaccine deaths with covid deaths if we had not vaccinated.

It's elementary, but it's amazing the number of idiots who don't understand elementary things ...

ah, the bastard! Of course, since before the vaccine, the most vulnerable had already been hospitalized or died, which has reduced those arriving now by as much and will continue to reduce them.

this is certainly not the right explanation, because otherwise it should also reduce the number of cases in young people, which is not the case. It is not because all the old people have already been affected by the disease that there are very few deaths among them, it is because many have been vaccinated. There were still more than enough people who did not have the virus (you for example) to kill lots of people without a vaccine.
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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by Obamot » 30/07/21, 08:57

ABC2019 wrote:
Christophe wrote:Another bitch of a neo-Nazi far-right nurse ... definitely ... : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

it is quite normal if the risks of the vaccine are not zero, but it is effective against the covid, that in the end there are more deaths from the vaccine than from the covid - that does not invalidate the analysis benefit risk, especially since it is likely that those who die from the vaccine also had a high risk of dying from covid. But I have nowhere heard that hospital wards are overwhelmed as with covid, when the number of people vaccinated is now much greater than the number of people infected - it just goes to show that the risk is much lower with the vaccine. .
That, be honest, you do not know (nobody knows anything about it as it is (and so much the better if it would be thanks to the vaccine, but with only 60% effectiveness, it is VERY insufficient and does no better than natural immunity - without vaccination - from last year), there are a lot of factors that can confuse the issue health-pollution-prevention / covid-19-list-of-effective-vaccines-t16510-3090.html # p457576

We will have to wait until May-June before claiming victory! And without knowing what to attribute the victory to (since your friends at Hoptkins, whose stats you defended were wrong for a year and a half, eh, don't forget ...)
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