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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by Christophe » 11/04/21, 17:07

sicetaitsimple wrote:No reaction????


Can we see the number of tests carried out over the same period?

To be balanced with Chile ... using the Sinovac ...

Your reactions?

Ah yes you are going to say: the Chinese vaccine is shit?
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 11/04/21, 17:20

Christophe wrote:Ah yes you are going to say: the Chinese vaccine is shit?

Finally, no foresight here soouplait ... : Mrgreen:
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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by Obamot » 11/04/21, 17:59

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Well, I'll answer for Kiki, SCOOOOP, Thaaa daaah!

This time it's the end of the 4 funny ones, ABC: fake-news / Izy: fake news / Pedro: fake-news / and Kiki: fake-news

! The death knell is ringing for the trolls, it's official!

As expected: : Arrowd:
Should Switzerland review its data strategy?

For Dr Monique Lehky Hagen, co-president of the Conference of Cantonal Medical Societies (CCM):

The way of collecting and presenting the data used in our country makes it impossible to compare the 1st, 2nd and 3rd wave of the health crisis.

Current changes in COVID testing strategy would undermine the ability to properly anticipate future developments [...]

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- “Polarizations are breaking out a bit in every corner. We are witnessing various frustrations that accumulate on both sides and it pains us to see that we are moving towards a society which loses its orientation and its confidence in the scientific and political world. If this crisis is not resolved quickly, it will become more and more difficult to manage the situation ”
(... alert the co-president of the Conference of Cantonal societies of Medicine).

Since the arrival of the coronavirus in our lives more than a year ago, citizens, as well as the medical profession, have had to adapt to changing instructions based on incomplete data, uncertainties and questioning. constant. The current crisis could lead people to develop their skills, to adapt, to learn from their mistakes, to understand them and to improve, as in any new situation.

But for Monique Lehky Hagen, the pandemic crisis "also highlights all the problems of our system and our lack of societal literacy" which hamper this process. She mentions in particular the “chaos of figures” in Switzerland and at the global level, which prevents us from adequately answering the legitimate questions that we are asking ourselves when we should have nuanced data to better understand this virus which presents itself in a very different way. depending on the patients who contract it.



Sources! https://www.bluewin.ch/fr/infos/suisse/ ... 61118.html

Valerie Passello - 9.4.2021


Mwouahahahah, everything is said, she does not speak directly of PCR tests, it is much more detailed (and implicit) and this is what we see everywhere, it is dramatic, but as I already announced since last year, the 2020 stats are on the streets! And in France too (already published here).

I told you ! It's finish...
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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 11/04/21, 18:04

No, no, no, it says "our country", in this case it is Switzerland. We are in France, dear sir, so it is not valid FOR ONE SECOND! CQFD. : Mrgreen:
Ps: She's a vice president, not even a president. You don't care about the world!
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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by Obamot » 11/04/21, 18:07

Image Image And to think that it is a Swiss, Professor Didier Pittet, who did the audit for France to analyze and tell us:

- “what did not work for us”(Called by Macron) https://www.letemps.ch/monde/covid19-un ... f-francais

Mwouahahahahahah! What bands of holes-duke it is unbelievable! Image
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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by sicetaitsimple » 11/04/21, 18:41

Christophe wrote:Can we see the number of tests carried out over the same period?
To be balanced with Chile ... using the Sinovac ...
Your reactions?
Ah yes you are going to say: the Chinese vaccine is shit?


The number of tests has been roughly divided by 3. No wonder, a priori we do not test vaccinated people, unless they show symptoms.
I'm not saying anything about Sinovac, it's you who embroiders. We should know the percentage of newly infected in Chile who have been previously vaccinated. The information may exist, but I do not know it.
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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by izentrop » 11/04/21, 20:14

We were talking about Chile ...
For the first time, a senior Chinese scientist publicly acknowledged on Saturday that Chinese vaccines have relatively low efficacy compared to those made using the messenger RNA process, like that of Pfizer-BioNTech ....
Brazilian researchers found that the Sinovac vaccine's effectiveness in preventing symptomatic infections was no more than 50,4% - near the 50% threshold by which health experts believe a vaccine is useful. In comparison, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was found to be 97% effective. https://www.lemonde.fr/international/ar ... _3210.html
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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by Janic » 11/04/21, 20:16

The number of tests has been roughly divided by 3. No wonder, a priori we do not test vaccinated people, unless they are showing symptoms.
What for? Are they afraid that they are positive like the unvaccinated?
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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 11/04/21, 20:21

izentrop wrote:For the first time, a senior Chinese scientist publicly acknowledged on Saturday that Chinese vaccines have relatively low efficacy compared to those made using the messenger RNA process ...

Which they also have a very relative effectiveness. I give cheap Gao Fu skin ...
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Re: Opinions on Covid Vaccines, Immunity and Immunology




by Obamot » 11/04/21, 20:46

Janic wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:The number of tests has been roughly divided by 3. No wonder, a priori we do not test vaccinated people, unless they show symptoms.
What for? Are they afraid that they will be positive like the unvaccinated?
they are afraid of the new wave : Cheesy:



Look at these fake-newsers : Cheesy: :D : Cheesy: as they have the beak nailed the "funny ones" :!: Image
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