Opinions about Covid vaccines, immunity, side effects and immunology

[Christophe]

[Christophe]

Resisting the virus is part of group immunity. So not too long:

"Covid-19: list of effective vaccines and immunity"

Something else would seem too encouraging to HS ...


(you understand Izentrop: stop the HS! )

I just wanted to point out that it was a bit early to cry out for efficacy ... since it takes 12-18 months to develop a truly effective vaccine ... at least that's what everyone claims. specialists in the media ... Here we are at 6 months max!

"List of vaccines that appear to be effective" would have seemed more appropriate to me!

[Obamot]

Correct!

As it stands, I only posted the “candidates”, it is well marked.

Then there is the endless debate about the relevance of getting vaccinated, in the end, if the covid is stopped by the vaccination, the debate will have come to an “honest” conclusion.

As long as, in the end, the best compromise of suggestion could then be:

Covid-19: vaccine candidates and immunology

So the word that reframes the debate is “immunology” which leaves room for a wider participation.

[ENERC]

Then there is the endless debate about the relevance of getting vaccinated, in the end, if the covid is stopped by the vaccination, the debate will have come to an “honest” conclusion.

Hope brings life
How many years did it take to slow down measles? Even with a vaccine she is still there and she always kills.
There will always be people who will not get vaccinated and countries where people or states cannot pay for the vaccine.
Even if we make the vaccine mandatory in a country, there will always be imported cases.
Frankly I doubt that the vaccine will be lifelong as for measles, and therefore the virus will circulate for a long time due to lack of re-vaccination.

The only real hope that it will disappear is that it mutates and becomes harmless and non-contagious. I speak of course on a global scale.

[phil59]

The only real hope that it will disappear is that it mutates and becomes harmless and non-contagious. I speak of course on a global scale.

We hope that you are right, and that it does not become quite the opposite ...

I don't know anything about it, but it's a possibility, right ????

[izentrop]

There are taboo words

Christophe, it's true that for the title it's premature, but we're used to it

Edit by Remundo: you are off topic: here, topic of VACCINES, by treatments.

Vaccines will also be part of treatments when they are a reality, right?

[Obamot]

The only real hope that it will disappear is that it mutates and becomes harmless and non-contagious. I speak of course on a global scale.

We hope that you are right, and that it does not become quite the opposite ...

I don't know anything about it, but it's a possibility, right ????

the main immune problem is junk food.


Then covid-19 mutations are cosmetic (RNA viruses mutate little in terms of their characteristics)

This is an advantage and a disadvantage ...

An advantage because a single vaccination could be effective for a long time (if indeed a vaccine can be)
A disadvantage because its mutation from virulent to harmless will not be rapid and drastic ...

And we must hope that one of its mutations does not inherit factors making it more dangerous, in fact, you are right (because the reverse is possible) but in principle there is rather a weakening ...

I think scientists should pay more attention to the bovine sector (slaughterhouses) there have been outbreaks of infections in the sector in several countries, with cases of “super-infectors”, it is good that There must be a reason...
And we should stop the orgies of sugar in the diet (the virus envelops itself in glucose ...)

[phil59]

I think scientists should pay more attention to the bovine sector (slaughterhouses) there have been outbreaks of infections in the sector in several countries, with cases of “super-infectors”, it is good that There must be a reason...

I was thinking this to myself a bit, but maybe they are on that too, and are fed up, and prefer to do their research in their corner, away from all "noise" ... or not to panic the populace ...

[Obamot]

You have to think big when you talk about the world, there are more than 2 million scientific publications per year, https://atlasocio.com/classements/educa ... -monde.php

So that scientists, there are millions ...

That's millions of different opinions on a lot of questions ...

That does not prevent some (a lot?) From having a blast, as you say ...

And I approve your second point without reservation, especially since it has a political component ...

[izentrop]

We talked about it on ARTE this evening at 15:45 pm https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/097402-017-A/28-minutes/ Arnaud Fontanet talks about a vaccine for 2021 but probably accessible first to the most at risk cases. In the meantime, certain "treatments" based on beta interferon, commonly used against multiple sclerosis, have given "very significant" results against the coronavirus. A treatment that would provide relief to people with severe forms, in respiratory distress. https://www.sortiraparis.com/actualites ... -une-etude
To be taken with a grain of salt