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Re: Covid-19: vaccines and immunology




by ABC2019 » 13/10/20, 11:27

Christophe wrote:
Obamot wrote:It's been two, AstraZeneca had already suspended its trials for similar reasons:

Coronavirus: AstraZeneca suspends trials of its vaccine
after the appearance of a "potentially unexplained illness" in a volunteer


https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 99697.html

An interesting article on “Vaccination and autoimmunity” https://www.revmed.ch/RMS/2003/RMS-2433/22929


... and THREE!

uh no it's the same as the two ...
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by Christophe » 13/10/20, 11:30

Finally when we read "The company AstraZeneca had experienced the same inconvenience a few weeks ago." is that it is not the same ....

Ah yes ok, not checked the date of the Obamot link ... 09/09/2020 nor seen the previous tweet.

Mea Culpa ...
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by Obamot » 13/10/20, 11:36

It was still useful: 60 registered, morbleu! : Shock:

Is it beautiful devotion to a "good cause" ... or 60 anxious unconscious in a hurry to serve as guinea pigs ...?
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by Christophe » 13/10/20, 11:49

Must see the compensation .... they can afford after selling hundreds of millions of dose "off plan" ... : Mrgreen:

There is more venality on Earth than you think ...
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by sicetaitsimple » 13/10/20, 12:16

A priori, the Astrazeneca tests resumed a few days after their suspension.
https://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/a ... 9.N1003514
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by VetusLignum » 15/10/20, 18:26

A relatively interesting article: https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/ ... _3244.html

And in particular the last paragraphs:
According to a study published Wednesday in the British journal Royal Society Open Science, a not insignificant part of the population of some countries believes in conspiracy theories on Covid-19, which increase mistrust of vaccination. For example, the false claim that the pandemic "is part of a plan to impose global vaccination" is believed to be reliable by 22% of Mexicans polled for this study.

“Governments and tech companies should look for ways toimprove digital media education in the population. Otherwise, developing a vaccine might not be enough, ”commented one of the study's authors, Sander van der Linden, a social psychology researcher at the University of Cambridge, England.
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Re: Covid-19: vaccines and immunology




by VetusLignum » 16/10/20, 00:40

What if the vaccine already existed, a vaccine already tested on millions of people, with mild and known side effects?
https://www.aging-us.com/article/5f85b9 ... 1366a/text
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 16/10/20, 12:00

VetusLignum wrote:What if the vaccine already existed, a vaccine already tested on millions of people, with mild and known side effects?
https://www.aging-us.com/article/5f85b9 ... 1366a/text


If I understood correctly it is to inject the attenuated virus, is that it?

Why haven't we done it already?
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by Christophe » 16/10/20, 12:00

VetusLignum wrote:A relatively interesting article: https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/ ... _3244.html

And in particular the last paragraphs:
(...) "is part of a plan to impose global vaccination" is considered reliable by 22% of Mexicans polled for this study.


And not (at least) 45% of French people (if the same question had been asked to them ...) : Cheesy:
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by VetusLignum » 16/10/20, 14:12

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:
VetusLignum wrote:What if the vaccine already existed, a vaccine already tested on millions of people, with mild and known side effects?
https://www.aging-us.com/article/5f85b9 ... 1366a/text


If I understood correctly it is to inject the attenuated virus, is that it?

Why haven't we done it already?


The idea would be to inject a milder version of one of the pre-existing common Covs, and rely on this Cov's cross-immunity with SARS-CoV-2 to protect the patient.
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