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by Obamot » 02/04/21, 01:06

General mindless troll syndrome decrypted !

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You do not understand? yet it's simple, Obamot explains that number of SICK is overestimated because we do too many cycles in PCR tests
Do you realize THE HUGE MISTAKE that you just wrote? Which finally describes very well the nullity of your reasoning for 1 year ... And it is with this type of imbecility that you think that you will get out of it the “funny ones” :?:

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by pedrodelavega » 02/04/21, 12:42

Obamot wrote:The greatest specialists who declared the PCR tests obsolete, clearly said that only 10% of the tests were really connected to a reality of contamination in the field and that everything else was a boat. And that in the best case.

Only 10%?
This would mean that in France there were not 4.7 million covid cases but 470000. It considerably increases the case fatality rate.
Your theory is a little anxiety-provoking.

And how are the statistics you quoted for North Korea, also based on PCR testing, "very safe" then? : Arrowd:
Obamot wrote:And that matches the (very safe) statistics we have from South Korea:
196 tests = the death rate is 000% out of 0,7 infected people = 7513 deaths. And it was the smallest (and most reliable) sample we have had to date in the world!
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by Obamot » 02/04/21, 12:45

Usual petty cliché ... Completely ineffective counter-fire.

Reread and learn better instead of still passing for a “monomaniac sophist”(Definition of Remundo)
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by Janic » 02/04/21, 13:07

by pedrodelavega "02/04/21, 12:42 PM
Obamot wrote: The greatest specialists who declared the PCR TESTS obsolete, clearly said that only 10% of the TESTS were really connected to a reality of CONTAMINATION in the field and that everything else was boat. And that in the best case.
Only 10%?
This would mean that in France there were not 4.7 million covid cases but 470000. It considerably increases the case fatality rate.
Your theory is a little anxiety-provoking.
Hold abc bis which reads everything wrong:
Your covid cases do not represent the entire population of a country where there could be 80/90% of it real positive, but without being sick. So it would, on the contrary, decrease the real lethality, outside of hospitals. We can see, moreover, that they are very happy to find a few cases "younger" than the old ones (funny formulation; moreover fuzzy, as much as possible) the 8 million current vaccinated being cases that have become positive by the vaccine.
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by Obamot » 02/04/21, 13:09

I refuse to answer an uneducated who thinks he is a scholar health-pollution-prevention / covid-19-list-of-effective-vaccines-t16510-1870.html # p439763 but behaves roughly co..ard!
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by pedrodelavega » 02/04/21, 13:21

Janic wrote:Your covid cases do not represent the entire population of a country where there could be 80/90% of it real positive,
Effectively they only represent the part that has been detected. You have to look at seroprevalence studies to get an estimate for the entire population. Those that I saw past did not seem to me to call into question the reliability of the pcr (which is not announced at 100% I remind you, there are of course false-positives and false-negatives but from there to speak of only 10% true positive out of all the positives, there is a gap anyway.)

Janic wrote:So it would, on the contrary, decrease the real lethality, outside of hospitals.
This is the difference between apparent lethality (CFR) and actual lethality (IFR) already explained time and time again. I think everyone's been ok with this for a long time.
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by ABC2019 » 02/04/21, 13:27

Janic wrote:the 8 million currently vaccinated being cases that have become positive by the vaccine.

the vaccinated do not become positive in PCR tests, but in serological tests (presence of antibodies).
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by Obamot » 02/04/21, 13:41

Hey the 2 funny ones, it's over ... It's dead there ...

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by Janic » 02/04/21, 13:45

Your covid cases do not represent the entire population of a country where there could be 80/90% of it real positives, but without being sick. So it would, on the contrary, decrease the real lethality, outside of hospitals. We also see that they are very happy to find a few cases "younger" than the old (funny wording moreover, vague as much as possible) the 8 million vaccinated current being cases that have become positive by the vaccine.
This would mean that in France there were not 4.7 million covid cases but 470000. It considerably increases the case fatality rate.: Arrowd:
Your theory is a little anxiety-provoking.
Janic wrote :Don the contrary, it would decrease the real lethality, outside of hospitals.
: Arrowu:
This is the difference between apparent lethality (CFR) and actual lethality (IFR) already explained time and time again. I think everyone's been ok with this for a long time.
Insofar as these are only theoretical models and not based on the real situation where many aspects escape theorists
These methods allowed researchers to calculate, as of March 2020, the case fatality rate linked to the COVID-19 epidemic for the first time in a country other than China, France. They calculated a case fatality rate of 0,5% based on hospital data and a rate of 0,8% integrating data from nursing homes.
So based on elderly people hospitalized and in nursing homes, that is to say a tiny part of the population and I talked about the total population of the country. : Arrowu:
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by pedrodelavega » 02/04/21, 14:00

Janic wrote:Insofar as these are only theoretical models and not based on the real situation where many aspects escape theorists
These methods allowed researchers to calculate, as of March 2020, the case fatality rate linked to the COVID-19 epidemic for the first time in a country other than China, France. They calculated a case fatality rate of 0,5% based on hospital data and a rate of 0,8% integrating data from nursing homes.
So based on elderly people hospitalized and in nursing homes, that is to say a tiny part of the population and I talked about the total population of the country. : Arrowu:


I seemed to agree in my previous post. I don't understand where you are going with this.
You said 3 days ago:
Janic wrote:the lethality figure does not relate to a population as a whole, but exclusively to people affected by the disease in question. This is the risk that people with this disease have of dying each year.[/ I]
https://lucperino.com/101/mortalite-ou-letalite.html
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