The Novartis Big Pharma lottery !!!

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by Janic » 29/02/20, 10:01

Abuse of power can only come from those who hold it.
and what do you call the obligation of 11 vaccines in France, unique case in Europe and in the world and voted with only 70 deputies? Especially since:
https://blogs.mediapart.fr/bernard-suda ... s-médecins

The eleven compulsory vaccines and the surprising signatures of "great doctors"
JUL 1. 2017 BY BERNARD SUDAN BLOG: BERNARD SUDAN'S BLOG
I was very surprised when I read the surprising signatures of 200 “great doctors” in support of the new Minister of Health, Agnès Buzyn, former member of the boards of directors of the Novartis and Bristol-Myers Squibb laboratories… To promote the placing on the pharmaceutical market of eleven compulsory vaccines ...

Oh, honey hypocrisy!
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by Exnihiloest » 01/03/20, 13:04

Janic wrote:and what do you call the obligation of 11 vaccines in France ...

Non sequitur which pollutes this forum.
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by Exnihiloest » 01/03/20, 15:07

Regarding the price of Zolgesma.

In trade, it is always the buyer who makes the price. Except in the case of extremely rare philanthropy, the trader sets the price according to what the buyer is ready to pay, sometimes with a skillful balance to achieve in order to optimize his sales, between the number of potential buyers and the selling price.

In the present case the calculation is quite simple, given that the old competing drug was at $ 85000 per dose, which given the number of injections over 10 years of treatment, exceeds 2 million. A single injection of the new product would be more effective than treatment with the other over several years, so Novartis charges for the service.
Novartis uses the commercial practices that we find everywhere, including in the small trader, but since it is a question here of health, and the health of children, we find that lamentable. We are right but it is not used for much.

Why don't we have a powerful public research capable, when it obtains results, of obtaining cooperation with the private sector for manufacturing at controlled prices? Why should critical drugs not be produced publicly?

These are the kinds of questions one might ask and the answers could improve the system, but for which the trolls of this forum already have the answer "it is because the governments are linked with the pharmaceutical industry", move around, there is nothing to do, but bands of cracks to destroy! Here we are, we always know in advance what these trolls have to say, so childish and vindictive.
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by pedrodelavega » 01/03/20, 15:37

Janic wrote:and what do you call the obligation of 11 vaccines in France, unique case in Europe and in the world

A fakenews:

https://fr.euronews.com/2019/04/26/quel ... ujourd-hui
"In Central and Eastern Europe: between 9 and 13 compulsory
Several countries in Eastern and Central Europe have a number of compulsory vaccines in a fairly high range: 9 for the Czech Republic, 10 for Slovakia, 11 for Poland, Hungary and Bulgaria, and 13 for Latvia.
In Greece: 14 compulsory vaccines "
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by GuyGadebois » 01/03/20, 15:40

pedrodelavega wrote:
Janic wrote:and what do you call the obligation of 11 vaccines in France, unique case in Europe and in the world

A fakenews:

https://fr.euronews.com/2019/04/26/quel ... ujourd-hui
"In Central and Eastern Europe: between 9 and 13 compulsory
Several countries in Eastern and Central Europe have a number of compulsory vaccines in a fairly high range: 9 for the Czech Republic, 10 for Slovakia, 11 for Poland, Hungary and Bulgaria, and 13 for Latvia.
In Greece: 14 compulsory vaccines "

Countries almost underdeveloped and corrupt to the bone. Ultra-liberal banana republics even more submissive than France in which the multinational pharmaceutical companies have a free hand. Very good examples, indeed.
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by GuyGadebois » 01/03/20, 15:43

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by pedrodelavega » 01/03/20, 15:50

GuyGadebois wrote:Countries almost underdeveloped and corrupt to the bone. Ultra-liberal banana republics even more submissive than France in which the multinational pharmaceutical companies have a free hand. Very good examples, indeed.
Do you seriously think that there is a link between the number of compulsory vaccines and corruption or underdevelopment? : Shock:

"- Sweden
The nine vaccines (poliomyelitis, diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, Haemophilus influenzae B bacteria, measles, mumps, rubella and pneumococcus) included in the national vaccination program are offered and not compulsory. For girls, the human papillomavirus vaccine is added.
According to the person in charge of the vaccination program, Ann Lindstrand, interviewed by AFP, making childhood vaccines compulsory would be counterproductive in Sweden because it does not correspond to mentalities. More than 96% of parents have their children vaccinated. This figure has been stable for decades. "

https://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2017/0 ... -pays.html

It's just that some populations are more reluctant than others, often linked to their attraction to conspire and fakenews theories circulating on social networks ...
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by GuyGadebois » 01/03/20, 16:02

I don't think so, I notice.
Sweden: ... offered and not compulsory.
Imagine the outcry if it happened to become "mandatory".
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by pedrodelavega » 01/03/20, 16:07

GuyGadebois wrote:I don't think so, I notice.
Sweden: ... offered and not compulsory.
Imagine the outcry if it happened to become "mandatory".
They don't need, they have similar / superior coverage rates to us.
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by GuyGadebois » 01/03/20, 16:30

pedrodelavega wrote:They don't need, they have similar / superior coverage rates to us.

Maybe, but at least they are free to choose.
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