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by ABC2019 » 23/07/21, 01:49

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:among 29 vaccinated who got infected, 21 transmission events were between vaccinated-to-vaccinated or vaccinated-to-unvaccinated.

this sentence does not seem to me to have any meaning, how can one count transmissions "from vaccinated to non-vaccinated" "among (among) 29 contaminations of vaccinated"? if it is vaccine contaminations, it can only be transmissions from non-vaccinated to vaccinated or from vaccinated to vaccinated!
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by Janic » 23/07/21, 06:57

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this sentence does not seem to me to have any meaning, how can one count transmissions "from vaccinated to non-vaccinated" "among (among) 29 contaminations of vaccinated"? if it is contaminations of vaccinated, it can only be unvaccinated to vaccinated or vaccinated to vaccinated transmissions
! and of course the bozo "forgets" to mention from vaccinated to unvaccinated, which is the most plausible!
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by ABC2019 » 23/07/21, 07:23

Janic wrote:abcon
this sentence does not seem to me to have any meaning, how can one count transmissions "from vaccinated to non-vaccinated" "among (among) 29 contaminations of vaccinated"? if it is contaminations of vaccinated, it can only be unvaccinated to vaccinated or vaccinated to vaccinated transmissions
! and of course the bozo "forgets" to mention from vaccinated to unvaccinated, which is the most plausible!

I haven't "forgotten", explain to me how a vaccinated person can be contaminated by a transmission from vaccinated to unvaccinated? : Shock:
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by Janic » 23/07/21, 07:53

I haven't "forgotten", explain to me how a vaccinated person can be contaminated by a transmission from vaccinated to unvaccinated?
So reread your formulation instead of inventing another one for the occasion!
how can we count transmissions "from vaccinated to non-vaccinated" (....) if it is contamination from vaccinated, it can only be unvaccinated to vaccinated or vaccinated to vaccinated transmissions
by being vaccinated contaminant!
So read what the non-funny write who point it out every time /
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by Remundo » 23/07/21, 08:36

Did you dream it?

that's it !

the Ugly Years of Government and the Nachionale Assemb'laids have done so.


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A government amendment is adopted. It allows the suspension of the employment contract, and the dismissal after a period of two months, of employees, excluding caregivers, who will be subject to the presentation of a #PassSanitaire, and would refuse to avoid it. #DirectAN


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by Rajqawee » 23/07/21, 08:39

I still work in the hospital - not providing care - and I always wait as long as possible for the democratic process to unfold before going to be vaccinated. Already, because otherwise well I no longer believe in the rule of law (and hey, since it's my convictions that make me work for the state, that bothers me a little!), And then because I think we might have surprises as we go :)

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by ABC2019 » 23/07/21, 08:48

Rajqawee wrote:I still work in the hospital - not providing care - and I always wait as long as possible for the democratic process to unfold before going to be vaccinated. Already, because otherwise well I no longer believe in the rule of law (and hey, since it's my convictions that make me work for the state, that bothers me a little!), And then because I think we might have surprises as we go :)

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if you're sure you'll have to get vaccinated anyway to continue working, what's the point of waiting?
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by Rajqawee » 23/07/21, 08:53

ABC2019 wrote:
Rajqawee wrote:I still work in the hospital - not providing care - and I always wait as long as possible for the democratic process to unfold before going to be vaccinated. Already, because otherwise well I no longer believe in the rule of law (and hey, since it's my convictions that make me work for the state, that bothers me a little!), And then because I think we might have surprises as we go :)

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if you're sure you'll have to get vaccinated anyway to continue working, what's the point of waiting?


Well precisely: I am not sure. The Constitutional Council could completely revoke this measure. Like all the others. Or ask for longer application times.
That's the democratic process ... in principle, we wait until everything is valid to implement a law, with a reasonable period of time for people to follow it.
And then ... I have a vaccination center IN the hospital. Why should I hurry?
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by ABC2019 » 23/07/21, 09:16

Rajqawee wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:
Rajqawee wrote:I still work in the hospital - not providing care - and I always wait as long as possible for the democratic process to unfold before going to be vaccinated. Already, because otherwise well I no longer believe in the rule of law (and hey, since it's my convictions that make me work for the state, that bothers me a little!), And then because I think we might have surprises as we go :)

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if you're sure you'll have to get vaccinated anyway to continue working, what's the point of waiting?


Well precisely: I am not sure. The Constitutional Council could completely revoke this measure. Like all the others. Or ask for longer application times.
That's the democratic process ... in principle, we wait until everything is valid to implement a law, with a reasonable period of time for people to follow it.
And then ... I have a vaccination center IN the hospital. Why should I hurry?

because not getting vaccinated causes additional difficulties in daily life, so if you are sure you have to do it, it is not beneficial to wait. If you hope not to have to, and you are convinced that the benefit is less than the risk, then yes it is justified to wait (in my opinion you are wrong on these two points, but the error is human).

Me personally I did not wait as soon as I was in the beneficiaries, but since it is AZ with a fairly long time between the two doses, I find myself a little stuck not yet having my health pass which begins to be required in certain places (museums). It will be good next week, but hey those still waiting to be vaccinated will have this problem during all the holidays. If I had been vaccinated two weeks earlier I would have had no problem.
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