Small report in a Belgian JT of May 18, 2016: http://www.rtbf.be/auvio/detail_maladie ... id=2111008
I do not know if accessible to non Belgians ...
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Lyme disease: Professor Montagnier's warning cry
http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societ ... 03874.html
http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societ ... 03874.html
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It starts with a good feeling but when I see
I fear a remake of the memory of waterseeks to develop a diagnostic method consisting in detecting traces of the bacteria's DNA in the blood plasma, by capturing electromagnetic waves emitted by the sample studied.
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I made the same remark ... but he may be right ...
We don't have a lot of science, do we?
We don't have a lot of science, do we?
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It will not improve the lack of credibility of this disease with medicine, on the contrary.
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This disease exists, several members of forums face it personally!
It is not a problem of lack of credibility but of training and maybe of lack of solution to fight against ... so "we" prefer to ignore it !! This is particularly disgusting behavior on the part of the pharmaceutical industry !!
Or, worse, "we" prefer to voluntarily create chronic patients ... more profitable ...
It is not a problem of lack of credibility but of training and maybe of lack of solution to fight against ... so "we" prefer to ignore it !! This is particularly disgusting behavior on the part of the pharmaceutical industry !!
Or, worse, "we" prefer to voluntarily create chronic patients ... more profitable ...
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Christophe wrote:This disease exists, several members of forums face it personally!
Very curious what is happening about this disease!
The medical profession is divided into 2 parts which are anchored in their certainties:
- those who recognize Lyme disease and try to alert the public authorities to this disease which would take on the appearance of a pandemic, and would become chronic for many patients,
- those who do not recognize it and consider it a psychosomatic disorder and refer the patients to psychologists, psychiatrists and anti-depressant treatments,
not to mention those (doctors, researchers, ...) who say they are overwhelmed by the subject.
As for the internet, we find everything there is its opposite against the backdrop of cloudiness, alarmist reports and investigations, negations from medical professors, more or less reliable test proposals (Elisa, Western-Blot, Elispot, Spiro -FindTM, PCR, Melisa, horowitz, etc ...), and ironically, its tests can give false positives and false negatives, even give contradictory results!
That said, the cries of alerts from medical professors are becoming more and more insistent and are relayed on major media (Radio, TV).
Only on France-Inter, 4 programs on this disease in the last 3 months.
In France, there are 30000 cases of patients contaminated each year with the bacteria Borrélia (lyme) ... and 1,5 million in Germany!
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Completely agree with you, Grelinette.
I just find it unfortunate that someone with the reputation of the Nobel distorts the debate, but it had at least the merit of raising the subject in the press.
I just find it unfortunate that someone with the reputation of the Nobel distorts the debate, but it had at least the merit of raising the subject in the press.
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Nobel Prize winners are people like any other; they have sometimes disproportionate "egos", a great need like that to exist in the media (sometimes, it's just to be financed again!) ...
Or, more prosaically, given the hyper-super-fragmentation of science and the hyper-super-specialization of researchers, out of their little process of this for which they obtained the Nobel Prize, they are (almost) as con only you and me...
Remember that at least 1 American Nobel Prize winner sold his sperm very expensive via a bank, thereby accrediting the idea that intelligence would be hereditary!
http://rue89.nouvelobs.com/2015/10/27/l ... bes-261693
On the subject, I do not know if so many doctors still doubt the existence of Lyme disease.
Now, in fact, my wife regularly has problems and it is not at all easy to make a sure diagnosis [basically the Elisa and Western-Blot tests reveal the "signature" of a contamination, but do not allow to say when etc ... If you read the text that accompanies the analysis sheet, you immediately see that the reliability is poor!]
It also exists for other diseases!
In addition, the symptoms are, depending on the phase, extremely variable - heart, joint, etc. ... lots of tissue can be affected!
Or, more prosaically, given the hyper-super-fragmentation of science and the hyper-super-specialization of researchers, out of their little process of this for which they obtained the Nobel Prize, they are (almost) as con only you and me...
Remember that at least 1 American Nobel Prize winner sold his sperm very expensive via a bank, thereby accrediting the idea that intelligence would be hereditary!
http://rue89.nouvelobs.com/2015/10/27/l ... bes-261693
On the subject, I do not know if so many doctors still doubt the existence of Lyme disease.
Now, in fact, my wife regularly has problems and it is not at all easy to make a sure diagnosis [basically the Elisa and Western-Blot tests reveal the "signature" of a contamination, but do not allow to say when etc ... If you read the text that accompanies the analysis sheet, you immediately see that the reliability is poor!]
It also exists for other diseases!
In addition, the symptoms are, depending on the phase, extremely variable - heart, joint, etc. ... lots of tissue can be affected!
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I update this subject because there have been a lot of news in France since the last comment in June 2016.
For a few months, not a week has gone by without there being a report on a magazine, on the radio or on TV which insists on French denial concerning this disease. Many media and doctors relay medical delays and raise French aberrations concerning this pathology which some doctors now describe as pandemic.
Professor Perronne, head of service, specialist in infectious diseases at the Garches hospital near Paris, continues to alert the media authorities to this health scandal and the inconsistencies of the French medical profession, starting with the fact that patients with Lyme, left behind by the French medical system which takes them from one screening test to another (tests of several hundred € uros!) And who end up committing suicide or approaching veterinary laboratories which are better equipped to detect with certainty contamination by Borreliosis (bacteria responsible for Lyme).
A complaint has just been made by a patient: http://www.parismatch.com/Actu/Sante/Maladie-de-Lyme-J-ai-du-faire-passer-mon-analyse-de-sang-pour-celle-d-un-chien-1185017
Things seem to fall into place because the Minister of Health launches national plan to fight this disease.
This ubiquitous situation poses questions!
How did we get to this situation?
Why is this disease systematically ignored?
Who has an interest in maintaining this denial?
I update this subject because there have been a lot of news in France since the last comment in June 2016.
For a few months, not a week has gone by without there being a report on a magazine, on the radio or on TV which insists on French denial concerning this disease. Many media and doctors relay medical delays and raise French aberrations concerning this pathology which some doctors now describe as pandemic.
Professor Perronne, head of service, specialist in infectious diseases at the Garches hospital near Paris, continues to alert the media authorities to this health scandal and the inconsistencies of the French medical profession, starting with the fact that patients with Lyme, left behind by the French medical system which takes them from one screening test to another (tests of several hundred € uros!) And who end up committing suicide or approaching veterinary laboratories which are better equipped to detect with certainty contamination by Borreliosis (bacteria responsible for Lyme).
A complaint has just been made by a patient: http://www.parismatch.com/Actu/Sante/Maladie-de-Lyme-J-ai-du-faire-passer-mon-analyse-de-sang-pour-celle-d-un-chien-1185017
Things seem to fall into place because the Minister of Health launches national plan to fight this disease.
This ubiquitous situation poses questions!
How did we get to this situation?
Why is this disease systematically ignored?
Who has an interest in maintaining this denial?
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