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by Christophe » 07/08/13, 09:29

Thank you janic not to deflect this subject! We know your opinion about vaccines :? :?
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by Janic » 07/08/13, 10:11

christophe hello
Thank you janic not to deflect this subject! We know your opinion about vaccines
It is not a matter of deflecting, I simply stress that these are mechanisms that can be found in any disease and therefore also in this area!
A little-known author, Louis Khune, and yet whose reflection should make one think, said: "There are no diseases, but different manifestations of the same malfunction"and he added:"if I am right then all diseases will find their solution by a single means: Restore deficient functions by not aggravating them by artificial means such as drugs or vaccines."
We are currently trying to restore a "normal" life to autistic people, but nothing is done to prevent this from happening through pseudo ignorance (apart from the business that is added to it). Our modern medicine is a medicine of effects and not of causes! or to use the formula of Claude Bernard (great opponent of Pasteur): "the microbe (the bacteria, the virus, etc ...) is nothing, it is the ground that is everything"borreliosis included!
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by I Citro » 08/08/13, 10:54

Thank you for having created this subject on a subject that I also received by a mailing of alternative health and which interests me to the point of asking me if I am not reached considering the number of symptoms felt ...
Until now I put this on a "hypochondriac temperament" ... But I feel so diminished ...
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by highfly-addict » 08/08/13, 13:11

If you remember a tick bite in your life, there is no hesitation!
Go zou! One serology immediately and another one in 3 weeks if there persists a doubt!
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by Christophe » 08/08/13, 18:18

highfly-addict wrote:If you remember a tick bite in your life, there is no hesitation!


Especially since the halo appears only in 50% of cases ... Contrary to what I had always heard from a medical body that does not know lyme!... ticks I got a good dozen in my life!

As a result, I've had this shit too ... since I do not know how long. Treated by 3 penicillin week at 3x500mg day (horse dose!) In the spring 2013 ... without being sure at 100% that it worked ... I recontacted a specialist that gave me highfly-addict! (thank you!)

Apart from the halo, it is a severe flu syndrome that appears in the weeks following the infection! And this one is systematic !

However, I had a nasty "flu" in the spring of 2012 (when no one around me had the flu) I presume it dates from that moment!

I went up to 41.5 ° C this had never happened to me ... I can tell you that we are not too clever at 41.5 ° C ... especially when you are alone at home ...
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by Did67 » 08/08/13, 19:22

Christophe wrote:Especially since the halo appears only in 50% of cases ....


This must be understood in the other direction:

(a) if halo, a strong presumption that the bite was a contaminant; so we will do a presumptive preventive treatment (we assume that there is a risk of infection, and we take the borellie in its phase where it settles ... An oral antibiotic therapy is enough.A fairly light treatment is enough ..

b) but 'there is no halo, we can still catch it !!! So never think in this way. Indeed, we will not make presumptive treatment (otherwise, we would eat antibiotics permanently). But often, if then symptoms occur ...

There, indeed, serology. And treatment of horses, under infusion, with "corrosive" antibiotics; you have to go find the borellia where it has been its hiding place, including very poorly irrigated tissues, so difficult to reach; hence infusion and horse dose (at the limit of what the body supports).

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Even if you don't remember a bite (because the tick may have gone unnoticed, gorged and dropped ...), but if you have been in a risk situation (walks in tall grass, bushes, the appropriate in Bermuda shorts, short sleeves ...) in an infected region ... direction "blood test"!
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by Janic » 08/08/13, 20:39

I have also been bitten by ticks, I cannot give the number. I remove the body, because generally the head remains in place and "infects" the individual, a few drops of lemon and voila. My dogs lying in the grass have been bitten by hundreds with the tick body swollen with blood (it was almost the only way to spot them) all their lives and I did the same and nothing at all. horizon either.
Once again, it is the terrain that counts and the simplicity of the means employed!
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by Christophe » 08/08/13, 21:08

Did67 wrote:
Christophe wrote:Especially since the halo appears only in 50% of cases ....


It must be understood in the other direction


I mean of course ... in 50% of cases of infection !!
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by highfly-addict » 08/08/13, 21:09

Janic wrote:... nothing on the horizon ...
Once again, it is the terrain that counts and the simplicity of the means employed!


Field ? So it's lucky to have a good, no glory to draw!
And it does not bring anything positive for those who are not so lucky ....

Did67 wrote:if you have been in a risk situation in an infected area .....


Lyme in its different forms is a global pandemic, there is no uninfected area.
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by Christophe » 08/08/13, 21:14

Janic wrote:"infect" the individual, a few drops of lemon and voila.


Whether the head stays or not has nothing to do with the risk of infection! You are infected if the tick is infected ... whether the head is removed or not!

By cons, apparently, it would be necessary that the tick remains at least 24h hooked to be infected ... and small ticks we see them right now ... But again, I do not think that this is a certainty ... after 24h the risk of contamination by an infected tick approaches 100% ...
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