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by Obamot » 16/12/11, 14:01

sen-no-sen wrote:The probiotics present in actimel do not "boost" the immune system at all, at best they are effective in reconstituting the intestinal flora more quickly after an episode of diarrhea.


Difficult to say if they do not participate, each metabolism is different.

On the other hand, it is completely abusive and false to assert it.

This is all the more so if they participate (if this is the case) they cannot do it alone. And they leave with a big handicap: acidity.

So we can without hesitation answer that NO. They do not boost immunity, because in addition to acidity, the added refined sugar that they may contain will do the opposite.

For the intestinal flora, you might as well take plain yougourths.
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by Obamot » 16/12/11, 14:11

lejustemilieu wrote:Oaxbuster's response:
HoaxBuster wrote:For some time, it has been rumored that yogurts enriched with probiotics would participate in the development of the scourge of obesity. In question, the famous probiotics supposed to promote our natural defenses.

This rumor has been circulating on the web for almost a year, first in the form of email chains relayed on various blogs, then more recently through a video circulating on the dailymotion site. [...]

Guillaume - HoaxBuster


There HoaxBuster puts for once the finger in the eye ... Because the answer is not so simple!

But if we admit that:
- our body lacks "basic" foods (ie metabolism of calcium and metabolism simply ...)
- modern food is full of processed foods ... so acidic;
- that yougourth (although beneficial) are still acidic;
- that the added sugar, will then cause a harmful "peak acid", since in reaction, the organism will have to draw on the basic reserves (.ie the bones, the teeth ...) to restore its PH ... While precisely, it is the opposite that we must seek to do => fix calcium and not consume it ...
- that if we do not metabolize well, we gain weight.

So yes, without a doubt, we can say before a court, that probiotics contribute to obesity (as well as omega-added margarines and many other things legally sold thanks to the directives of criminal health authorities and of the Codex Alimentarius, which is just as much ...)

Danone couldn't care less about the world by claiming that their product is good for boosting the body's defenses, because in the majority of cases it will lower it.
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by dedeleco » 16/12/11, 14:23

modern food is full of processed foods ... so acidic;

there is only to put a little of the soda leads to the sink to have it basic and good for health !!!
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by Obamot » 16/12/11, 14:27

You have horse remedies !!! : Mrgreen: : Cheesy: do you want to kill people?

No, that will not solve the balance of the "food bowl", will it ...

Because normally, there is no need to do what you suggest.

In fact, if you eat properly and exercise, you will have the correct acid / base balance. 8)
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by dedeleco » 16/12/11, 14:28

Objective scientific facts:
are they effective in restoring the intestinal flora more quickly after an episode of diarrhea.

False-archival, see the reference that I put here:
Actimel (Danone) does not reduce diarrhea in frail people
http://www.lepoint.fr/bourse/actimel-da ... 702_81.php

The European authority of food safety (EFSA) on Wednesday rejected Danone's arguments that linked the consumption of Actimel and the reduction of the risk of diarrhea in elderly people in hospitals, according to a press release from the group.
DANONE


Danone lies and lost lawsuits in the US (€ 37million) and dropped out without evidence in Europe, after spending tens of millions of € to end up being unable to prove his advertising claims.

As soon as I saw this advertising hype, I no longer buy a single Danone product, a lie, which started with the wrong name BIO that Danone had to withdraw, to continue even more his lies with Actimel, Activia and a misleading bludgeoning, for much more expensive yogurts and not ORGANIC at all !!

Buy real BIO without claims and cheaper than Danone, not organic at all with manufactured aromas called natural !!!

I put credible, scientific links (verifiable, even Nature review) and they are not read !!! (almost always)

http://www.20minutes.fr/france/398204-F ... -vides.php

CONSO - No more advertising arguments dangling health-related virtues for Activia and Actimel yogurts. Good news for consumers ...

A little bomb. This time, Certainly, Activia and Actimel yogurts can no longer be presented as "nourishing the skin from the inside", or by other more or less dubious nutritional and health promises. Danone gave up on Thursday to tout the health benefits of two of its star yogurts in its advertisements in Europe.

A decision that vacillates the marketing and commercial strategy of the French giant: these yogurts represent 25% of the world turnover of fresh dairy products, the most important branch of the group (57% of the total). Because all of its advertising campaigns were precisely based on health claims, and made it possible to give these products a “healthy” varnish (to the point of speaking of “alicaments”, half-foods, half-drugs), as deciphered this blog.

The bottles of Actimel were, for example, supposed to "help strengthen your natural defenses" in this campaign.

The cause of this turnaround? Danone could not obtain the approval of the health authorities on its advertising slogans (ie its “nutritional claims”). It was in the wake of the publication of its first quarter financial results that the company, the world number one in dairy products, announced thatit withdrew its request for validation of Activia and Actimel products from the European Food Safety Authority (Efsa).

Danone's withdrawal is all the more surprising given that these two yogurts were to be the subject of an opinion from EFSA in the “coming weeks”. This decision suggests that he preferred to withdraw before being failed. Officially, to explain this choice, the group led by Franck Riboud denounces a “lack of readability” and says that they expect a “clarification” of the evaluation criteria of EFSA.

12 million euros of research

The body is the obligatory passage to obtain authorization to promote to the consumer the supposed health benefits of food. The objective is to cleaning up the real and false claims of the food industry who are increasingly highlighting the health benefits of their products.

To support these health claims, Danone had undertaken costly research with, for example, seven clinical studies carried out over several years for a total of 12 million euros, the most expensive of which cost 4,5 million euros. He had already been robbed of green wood by consumer associations, such as CLCV, or the British association Which?
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by Obamot » 16/12/11, 14:37

Why you repost exactly the same text as on the previous page:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post219381.html#219381

What interest? If no one answers it is because we approve => and I had answered you, here is again:

dedeleco wrote:Danone lies et lost lawsuits in the US (€ 37million) and dropped out without evidence in Europe, after spending tens of millions of € to end up being unable to prove his advertising claims.

As soon as I saw this advertising hype, I no longer buy a single Danone product, a lie, which started with the wrong name BIO that Danone had to withdraw, to continue even more his lies with Actimel, Activia and a misleading bludgeoning, for much more expensive yogurts and not ORGANIC at all !!

Buy real BIO without claims and cheaper than Danone, not organic at all with manufactured aromas called natural !!!


Yes, they are lying. And we can even add that their greed is limitless:
- they wanted to give us a shot at the “patented organic” brand. With remember the "Danone Bio" ... which finally had to be called Actimerde ...
- they still wanted to give us a shot at the “patented bio” with Actimerde and Acticaca who screw up the diarrhea ... (Note you save on Fuca sugared almonds ...)

In short, between them and Lesieur they have the palm of bad taste, more taste at all see the taste of latrines. As Jean Pierre Coffe would say, it's m ...
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by sen-no-sen » 16/12/11, 14:44

dedeleco wrote:Objective scientific facts:
are they effective in restoring the intestinal flora more quickly after an episode of diarrhea.

False-archival, see the reference that I put here:
Actimel (Danone) does not reduce diarrhea in frail people
http://www.lepoint.fr/bourse/actimel-da ... 702_81.php


Reducing diarrhea and restoring the intestinal flora are two different things ...
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by Obamot » 16/12/11, 20:40

Christophe wrote:Title changed otherwise we didn't understand anything!

Flytox wrote:[Danone pushes to “raise” our children like pigs]


20 years already actimol and company?

The placebo effect is cheaper, and less waste generator, that's for sure !!


It's expensive the price of the pig, even obese : Mrgreen: : Cheesy:
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