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Danone pushes to “raise” our children like pigs




by Flytox » 15/12/11, 19:54

Received this in my mail (to check of course):

Activia and Actimel

DANONE OBLIGED TO WITHDRAW LYING ADVERTISING AFTER 15 YEARS OF BATTLEING AND DAMAGE.

The “stone in the yogurt pot” that Didier Raoult, French researcher in the prestigious scientific journal “Nature” of September 2009 launched, ended up paying off.
For the owner of the Timone virology lab in Marseille,
the yoghurts and other milk drinks stuffed with probiotics that we have been swallowing for almost 20 years would have a big share of responsibility in the obesity epidemic which strikes the
Children.

The probiotics that Danone adds to everything goes in various
yogurts are, according to the brand's claims asserted on television, supposed to “boost” the immune defenses.
There are more than 1 billion per pot of Activia or Actimel. The problem is that these good "active and living" bacteria, dixit Danone, are the same as those used for a long time in industrial farms as growth promoters to make pigs and chickens grow faster.

A pig thus stuffed with probiotics is more than 10% of
won on the scale. Danone therefore pushes to “raise” our children like pigs or chickens….
In fact, at the beginning of the years, researchers had the idea of
compare the intestinal flora of obese and non-obese. And there, surprise, the first ones were packed with probiotics - the ones we find in “health plus” yogurts.
Didier Raoult comments: “We authorized for food
human growth promoters used in animal husbandry, without trying to find out what would be the effect on children ”.

So, he asked for studies to find out the role
of ALL dairy products in the childhood obesity epidemic. Furthermore, it is not just children who are victims of this hoax; I met many chubby women who were undernourished, and who were desperately trying to lose weight by limiting themselves to a few yogurts a day plus a few trinkets. And hopeless disillusionment, they continued to grow, were more and more tired and fragile, especially in winter when it is essential to YANGUISER, while yogurts are hyper YIN.
Hence the article "Mocking eagle" that I had passed in "Health Practice" under the title "BECOME XXL WITH YOGURTS" Finally, the independent whistleblowers finally moved the official services before the scandal n breaks out too much in broad daylight.

This is how they have just put pressure on the Danone group, forcing it, in the delicate terms of the major newspapers, "to review its copy" (A monster like Danone, it can be spared ...). We must all the same realize that this could be a blow for the lobby since the groups Actimel Europe and Activia Europe together weigh> 1,5 billion euros out of a total Danone figure of 15 billion, or 10%.

But I don't really care about this business
cheaters, because between his discreet and dexterous ad withdrawal maneuvers and the addictions of many
automated consumers there is not really the 'fire to
lake ”, while waiting for us to invent another“ fashionable salad ”. It's been official since the end of September 2011, that's why there is no more TV advertising.


In the same way:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actimel
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by Christophe » 15/12/11, 20:09

Title changed otherwise we didn't understand anything! (I thought you were talking about a movie!)

20 years already actimol and company?

The placebo effect is cheaper, and less waste generator, that's for sure !!
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by dedeleco » 15/12/11, 21:40

It is well known that excess dairy products with growth hormone from cows to fatten calves in less than a year at the bottom of the box, also melts up and fatten men, and later lead to cancers in addition to the breast or the prostate, especially as one is tall !!
In addition, the claims justifying this to have calcium for the bones against osteoporosis, are false.
See the articles of Willett that I had put elsewhere on econology, by comparison with other countries taking few dairy products:
Read and understand, to reduce the risk of various diseases, heart and cancer:
http://www.hondafoundation.jp/library/p ... p106_e.pdf
lots of other items.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Willett
http://world.honda.com/news/2004/c040929.html

Fat people have an intestinal flora different from lean is a scientific result known for several years, and their bacteria are more effective in using food and making them fat !!

In addition, as with chickens, there are viruses that make you fat a lot, if you catch them, instead of having a cold, you get fat !!!!!

Lots of info like this on google and scholar googles www.physorg.com www.sciencedaily.com !!

Eating a little of all plain yogurts, without excess, is as good and cheaper.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actimel
Probiotics and obesity: a link
read the demonstration that there is no doubt, these probiotics in a lot of dairy products, expensive and praised as false advertisements, for children and adults, make children and pigs much more fattening as well are drunk !!!:
http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v ... ro2209.pdf

http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v ... 9.html#top
Activia and Actimel, "food" now empty shells
http://www.20minutes.fr/france/398204-F ... -vides.php

Finally Yes your child is skinny, give him actimel, he will grow much better, like pigs !!!

http://www.lepoint.fr/bourse/actimel-da ... 702_81.php

And do not give it to your old people who have poor digestion:
The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) on Wednesday rejected Danone's arguments that linked the consumption of Actimel to the reduction of the risk of diarrhea in elderly people in hospitals, according to a group press release.


Danone has decided to settle this dispute amicably by proposing $ 35 million in compensation to the complainants and also decided to modify the packaging of its product to remove the word "immunity".
In the scientific journal Nature5 of September 2009, Didier Raoult indicates: "yoghurts and milk drinks with probiotics, for almost twenty years, have their share of responsibility in the obesity epidemic ..."

This health professional also states: “Probiotics are used as growth promoters in the 'agricultural sector'. Further studies should be done to confirm they are safe for use in humans
On April 15, 2010, Danone announced that it was withdrawing its request for validation of Activia and Actimel products from the European Food Safety Authority6.

On December 8, 2010, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) rejected Danone's arguments that supported a link between the consumption of Actimel and the reduction of the risk of diarrhea in elderly people in hospitals

Didier Raoult guarantees that the use of probiotics as growth promoters in the farming industry means that further studies should be carried out before they are considered as safe for use in humans.


Probiotics and obesity: a link?
Didier Raoult endorses that the use of probiotics as growth promoters in farming
industry means that further studies should be carried out before they are considered as safe
for use in humans
.
... further
work using
experimental
models should
be carried out to
evaluate the role
of these products
as animal growth
promoters
before they are
recommended for
used in children.
Recent studies on the human gut microbiota have shown
That obesity is associated with a reduction in Gram-negative
bacteria, specifically members of the Bacteroidetes, and an
increase in Gram-positive Firmicutes1
. Additionally, it has
been shown that the gut microbiota of obese individuals
is less diverse than that of non-obese individuals
2. The
manipulation of the gut microbiota - through the administration
of probiotics and antibiotics - has been used for
growth promotion in farm animals for 50 years and is regulated
by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the
United States and by the European Commission in Europe.
The probiotics used for this purpose in the farming industry
includes products containing Firmicutes, in particular
Lactobacillus spp., Bifidobacterium spp. and Enterococcus
spp. These products have been marketed and used in most of
the animal farming industry, including in the production
of poultry, calves and pigs, and many studies have shown
increases in the size and weight of the young animals that
are given these bacterial additives.
Antibiotics also have
been used for this purpose, although this practice is now
banned in Europe.
Firmicutes are also used directly as therapeutic adjuvants
in humans, under the names probiotics, prebiotics
or, more generally, 'functional foods'. In the United States,
these products are categorized by the FDA as' generally
considered as safe '(GRAS;
ironically, 'gras' translates as 'fat'
in French).
Analysis of these products showed that they
contain high concentrations of live Lactobacillus spp. and
Bifidobacterium spp. (up to 108 organisms per gram or milliliter).
These concentrations are similar to those used in
animals as growth promoters
. In the United States, probiotic-
containing products such as dairy drinks or yogurts
typically contain> 107 lactobacilli. Lactobacillus acidophilus
is found in functional foods in amounts that are equivalent
to those used to cause weight gain in piglets. Lactobacillus
spp. also have been associated with weight gain in children
treated for diarrhea3
.
In addition, some studies have
demonstrated weight increases in children who received
Lactobacillus rhamnosus, independent of the disease for
which this probiotic was prescribed4.
When these data are considered in the context of the epidemic of childhood obesity that is occurring in many developed countries, it
seems essential to quickly and more completely study the
effects of probiotics in the pediatric population.
Functional foods, including fermented dairy products
containing probiotics, are gaining popularity in
many countries, among children in particular
, but little
research has been carried out on the connection
between these products and weight gain. These foods
products are often sold under the guise of having positive
effects on children's health,
but there are little conclusive
data to support these claims.
Surprisingly, the level of regulation for the use of probiotics in humans is less strict than that for their use in animals. The specific bacterial species involved and the concentrations
at which they are present often are not made clear to
consumers, and to my knowledge the long-term effects
of probiotics as human food supplements or as adjunctive
therapy have never been rigorously evaluated. In
my opinion, further work using experimental models
should be carried out to evaluate the role of these
products as animal growth promoters before they are
recommended for use in children.
It is my view that there is a danger that we may be
causing a real human health problem by promoting for
human consumption products containing bacteria that
have been associated with weight gain in the animal
food industry
Any chemical compound with such a
side effect in experimental animals would be rigorously
tested before being allowed to be used in food. I
think that before probiotic and prebiotic products can
be regarded as safe, it is imperative that they are tested
in experimental models that evaluate the propensity of
these products to cause obesity in humans.

1. Ley, RE et al. Human gut microbes associated with obesity. Nature
444, 1022-1023 (2006).
2. Turnbaugh, PJ et al. A core gut microbiome in obese and lean twins.
Nature 457, 480–484 (2009).
3. Chouraqui, JP et al. Assessment of the safety, tolerance, and
protective effect against diarrhea of ​​infant formulas containing
mixtures of probiotics or probiotics and prebiotics in a randomized
controlled trial. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 87, 1365–1373 (2008).
4. Guandalini, S. et al. Lactobacillus GG administered in oral rehydration
solution to children with acute diarrhea: a multicenter European trial.
J. Pediatr. Gastroenterol. Nutr. 30, 54–60 (2000).
Didier Raoult is at Research Unit in Infectious Diseases and
Emerging Tropicals, CNRS-IRD UMR 6236, Faculty of
Medicine, University of the Mediterranean, 27 Boulevard Jean
Windmill, 13385 Marseille, France.

Editorial
616 | SEpTEmBER 2009 | VOLUME 7 www.nature

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by Obamot » 16/12/11, 00:26

Well seen !

Besides the worst is the acidity rate and especially the "added sugar".

Dessert to boost your immune response
Just take a “plain” yougourth (or better, 0% per kilo serum at Lidl or Dia) and sweeten it with a good bit of crushed banana ... add a dash of organic sunflower oil ... (the bio-village is not expensive at Leclerc) half a lemon ... fruit to your tastes stir ... (yum-yum) And don't forget to add another freshly ground cereal of your choice + almonds and there c is the foot! A real "full meal" for your immunity and against heart failure. And that holds the stomach well ... casually for a 100% natural dessert, which cures allergies ... (and many other things ...) it's not bad at all ...
Source and original recipe:
http://www.kousmine.com/prod01.htm

But the worst of all - we can never repeat it enough - it's Lesieur ...

The ad says:

- " We want everything "

Only here ... they make a big advertisement, but in these assembly oils: Isio 4 etc ............... there is nothing more profitable to the organization ... (worse, there are traces of drain oil within the limits allowed by the regulations => scandalous!)

Do not make savings on the quality of oils (do not target the first prices ... catastrophic nutritionally) it is the central link of the body's immunity.
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by dedeleco » 16/12/11, 00:40

I prefer :
Just take a "nature" yougourth
made with natural organic milk, with my homemade jam from my gardens, plums, cherries, quinces (150 kilos this year on a single quince tree), figs, depending on the year, in real fruit yogurt with a truly natural flavor ( and not that of tampered molds giving a pseudo-natural flavor used in fruit machines that have lost all flavor without these molds).
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by the middle » 16/12/11, 07:38

Oaxbuster's response:
For some time, it has been rumored that yogurts enriched with probiotics would participate in the development of the scourge of obesity. In question, the famous probiotics supposed to promote our natural defenses.

This rumor has been circulating on the web for almost a year, first in the form of email chains relayed on various blogs, then more recently through a video circulating on the dailymotion site.

At the base of this rumor, there is the use of an article of the Duck chained which was based on the interpretation of the conclusions of a scientific study on chickens fed with probiotics. And obviously, to all lord all honor, the chain is unleashed essentially against the champion of the sector: Danone.

Problem, whether in the written version or in the video, antiprobiotics (!) Only repeat the question raised by Professor Raoult repeatedly to make it an absolute scientific truth. Clearly, the objective sought is above all to hurt by using violent and disparaging terms.

Quite paradoxically, the author of the video seems to attach real importance to making the maximum of his demonstration stick to a completely credible scientific guarantee while affirming that in winter, it is essential to get yanguis while the yogurts are hyper Yin ... Yes well, actually, seen from this angle, it is clear that yogurts are not healthy for health.

In addition, the video posted on dailymotion and emails can challenge as much as they seem to be endorsed by a medical authority. Indeed, they are signed by a person working in a hospital. Only here, this person is absolutely not a doctor or an expert, but works in the maintenance department of the hospital ... Not really a specialist in probiotics! The hospital in question has also published a formal denial on this subject.


Another striking element is the use of a scientific study. What we are saying in this study is that chickens on probiotics become obese in a few weeks! Or, except that one twists the arm to reality while trying to make believe that there is a proven link between obesity and probiotics, which, once again, is far from being the case. And thread by needle we manage to point the finger at the products of the food giant.

Scientifically, the link between probiotics and obesity is disputed by experts, in particular those of the International Scientific Association for Probiotics and Prebiotics (ISAPP). They put forward in particular factual arguments:

The probiotics used in the chicken study have nothing to do with the unique and patented probiotic strains contained in Danone products (DN 114-001; DN 173-010). Each probiotic strain has a specific effect.
The study in question was carried out on chickens, therefore birds! From a scientific point of view, it is totally unfounded to extrapolate the conclusions to humans, given the enormous and obvious differences between the digestive systems.
The study mentioned highlighted an increase in the weight of animals having consumed enormous quantities of probiotics (an amount of the order of 100 times greater than the standards), and not an increase in body fat. Concretely, the probiotics used in this study accelerated the growth of chickens

The funny thing is that research on probiotics and obesity goes back above all to recent scientific study publications (done on humans!) Showing many avenues of favorable effect of probiotics to fight obesity!

Finally, in order to answer any question on the subject, Danone invites Internet users to contact consumer services in their country. Of course, it will be easy to object that, as the main player in the development of probiotics in food, Danone has every interest in defending its steak. However, they do not hesitate to communicate with their customers ... and, if this attitude is not at all a guarantee of absolute probity, it is rare enough to be noted.
Article by
Guillaume - HoaxBuster

http://www.hoaxbuster.com/hoaxliste/pro ... et-obesite
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by dedeleco » 16/12/11, 12:42

Read scientific articles published on serious scientific journals !!!
I gave some.

There are monumental errors in what we eat, read Walter Willett !! Too much milk and meat with junk food.

Danone has failed to prove anything scientific after tens of thousands of € spent !!

Do not forget that for asbestos (very small doses therefore not dangerous !!), the Mediator, etc. endocrine disruptors, all the products previously authorized and currently prohibited, 'PCBs, herbicides, insecticides, industrialists for defend came out the same types of assertions: not sufficiently proven therefore authorized, do not believe the slanderers, until we prove with lots of deaths for decades !!
Asbestos is still an exception because with a special disease caused by 99% asbestos alone!!
Usual cancers are not proven to 99% to a single cause, and therefore in court without total proof, the dead are dismissed from their complaints, as shown in the report on A5: the judge and the dioxin, ironed this night: no culprit because not proven, even with lots of cancers and deaths around l (incinerator of garbage !!
It is the only incinerator to go to court when there have been a hundred such in France !!! (example: Toulon, which burned garbage outdoors in the same place, before the incinerator, in front of the highway when entering Toulon!!
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by sen-no-sen » 16/12/11, 12:53

The probiotics present in actimel do not "boost" the immune system at all, at best they are effective in reconstituting the intestinal flora more quickly after an episode of diarrhea.
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by dedeleco » 16/12/11, 13:31

are they effective in restoring the intestinal flora more quickly after an episode of diarrhea.

False-archival, see the reference that I put here:
Actimel (Danone) does not reduce diarrhea in frail people
http://www.lepoint.fr/bourse/actimel-da ... 702_81.php

The European authority of food safety (EFSA) on Wednesday rejected Danone's arguments that linked the consumption of Actimel and the reduction of the risk of diarrhea in elderly people in hospitals, according to a press release from the group.
DANONE


Danone lies and lost lawsuits in the US (€ 37million) and dropped out without evidence in Europe, after spending tens of millions of € to end up being unable to prove his advertising claims.

As soon as I saw this advertising hype, I no longer buy a single Danone product, a lie, which started with the wrong name BIO that Danone had to withdraw, to continue even more his lies with Actimel, Activia and a misleading bludgeoning, for much more expensive yogurts and not ORGANIC at all !!

Buy real BIO without claims and cheaper than Danone, not organic at all with manufactured aromas called natural !!!

I put credible, scientific links (verifiable, even Nature review) and they are not read !!! (almost always)

http://www.20minutes.fr/france/398204-F ... -vides.php

CONSO - No more advertising arguments dangling health-related virtues for Activia and Actimel yogurts. Good news for consumers ...

A little bomb. This time, Certainly, Activia and Actimel yogurts can no longer be presented as "nourishing the skin from the inside", or by other more or less dubious nutritional and health promises. Danone gave up on Thursday to tout the health benefits of two of its star yogurts in its advertisements in Europe.

A decision that vacillates the marketing and commercial strategy of the French giant: these yogurts represent 25% of the world turnover of fresh dairy products, the most important branch of the group (57% of the total). Because all of its advertising campaigns were precisely based on health claims, and made it possible to give these products a “healthy” varnish (to the point of speaking of “alicaments”, half-foods, half-drugs), as deciphered this blog.

The bottles of Actimel were, for example, supposed to "help strengthen your natural defenses" in this campaign.

The cause of this turnaround? Danone could not obtain the approval of the health authorities on its advertising slogans (ie its “nutritional claims”). It was in the wake of the publication of its first quarter financial results that the company, the world number one in dairy products, announced thatit withdrew its request for validation of Activia and Actimel products from the European Food Safety Authority (Efsa).

Danone's withdrawal is all the more surprising given that these two yogurts were to be the subject of an opinion from EFSA in the “coming weeks”. This decision suggests that he preferred to withdraw before being failed. Officially, to explain this choice, the group led by Franck Riboud denounces a “lack of readability” and says that they expect a “clarification” of the evaluation criteria of EFSA.

12 million euros of research

The body is the obligatory passage to obtain authorization to promote to the consumer the supposed health benefits of food. The objective is to cleaning up the real and false claims of the food industry who are increasingly highlighting the health benefits of their products.

To support these health claims, Danone had undertaken costly research with, for example, seven clinical studies carried out over several years for a total of 12 million euros, the most expensive of which cost 4,5 million euros. He had already been robbed of green wood by consumer associations, such as CLCV, or the British association Which?



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by Obamot » 16/12/11, 13:46

dedeleco wrote:Me I prefer :
Just take a "nature" yougourth
made with natural organic milk, with my homemade jam from my gardens, plums, cherries, quinces (150 kilos this year on a single quince tree), figs, depending on the year, in real fruit yogurt with a truly natural flavor ( and not that of tampered molds giving a pseudo-natural flavor used in fruit machines that have lost all flavor without these molds).


Certainly Dedelco, you have the right to "prefer", everyone has the right ... And what you say is very good.

After this nuance I come back to the questions immune. Notwithstanding the fact that you are not concerned, since we know that you have a good lifestyle. I was addressing readers "in general" ...

And in this case ... What you are proposing does not immediately respond to the concern of a "complete food bowl". Your recipe is missing:
- the vitamin complex "B" (freshly ground cereals).
- magnesium (almonds).
- polyunsaturated fatty acids (organic sunflower oil, or hemp oil of your choice)
- the special vitamin "C" offered by lemon juice (very specific).
- bananas, very important ...
Not to mention that plain yogurt has cholesterol (unless you do it with 0% milk, but it's difficult to control). And that a jam contains added sugar, even if it is raw cane (not too much ...)

Then, there is the acid / base balance, the use of yogurt and jams would cause the fragile balance of this recipe to be lost in this regard, and would reduce its effectiveness by the same amount (especially for fixing calcium ... ). Lemon has this particular, that its acidity is not to be considered as contraindicated.

Thus, instead of jams to preserve fruit and avoid an "acid peak", it may be necessary to suggest freezing.

Anyway, if you want to make a budwig cream:
http://www.kousmine.com/prod01.htm

... to boost your immunity, you have to respect its composition. Otherwise it becomes "something else". And it becomes complicated to find something equivalent "complete" ...

Besides, everyone will understand that YOU find everything that is missing in this daily recipe, in the rest of your diet (something that not everyone necessarily knows how to do in an optimal way ... While budwig, for its part, already combines all these qualities without racking your brains)

Have a good day
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