Covid vaccines: how effective? Variants, duration of immunity, efficacy on contamination and on severe cases?
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Re: Reduction in vaccine efficacy (variants, duration of immunity ...) to 64% in Israel on contamination in the Delta
So correction and continuation of the analysis, the figures date from May 30 to July 11 ... we must therefore take a vaccination date of early June given the vaccine and viral incubations! I remember June 1 ...
7% of complete vaccinated inpatients (2 doses) at 17.2% on June 1, this gives ... 64% vaccine efficacy against hospitalizations ...
However, we have 15% -7% = 8% of first-time vaccines ... the rest of those vaccinated are therefore first-time ...
8% of hospitalized firstly vaccinated to 22.4% of the population on June 1, this gives ... 70% vaccine efficacy ...
During this period, the first vaccinated people were therefore less impacted. no doubt existing behaviors or weaknesses (comorbidity).
But the fact that 7% and 8% are very close is intriguing, isn't it?
The doc says "about 7% ..." if this goes to 8% there would be more complete vaccinated than primary vaccinated at the hospital ...
In graphic resolution this gives:
DRESS Doc:
GOOGLE vaccine curve: https://www.google.com/search?q=vaccin+france+covid
7% of complete vaccinated inpatients (2 doses) at 17.2% on June 1, this gives ... 64% vaccine efficacy against hospitalizations ...
However, we have 15% -7% = 8% of first-time vaccines ... the rest of those vaccinated are therefore first-time ...
8% of hospitalized firstly vaccinated to 22.4% of the population on June 1, this gives ... 70% vaccine efficacy ...
During this period, the first vaccinated people were therefore less impacted. no doubt existing behaviors or weaknesses (comorbidity).
But the fact that 7% and 8% are very close is intriguing, isn't it?
The doc says "about 7% ..." if this goes to 8% there would be more complete vaccinated than primary vaccinated at the hospital ...
In graphic resolution this gives:
DRESS Doc:
GOOGLE vaccine curve: https://www.google.com/search?q=vaccin+france+covid
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Re: Reduction in vaccine efficacy (variants, duration of immunity ...) to 64% in Israel on contamination in the Delta
pedrodelavega wrote:If Raoult confirms ...
If Végaz did not understand (intentionally) my post above ... As for Raoult, he has "enough" to confirm or deny, not you or Kiki.
Summary: Delta variant "big cold", Delta variant plus, apparently not a big cold, but we'll see.
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The only bias in this reasoning are the date of vaccination to remember ... and the approximate "about 7%" ...
If we take May 15th the results would collapse even more !! Ditto if we take 8% ...
Does everyone agree there?
Pfizer is not very effective against the delta to fight against hospitalizations according to this analysis ... for sheaves and deaths we will see later!
If we take May 15th the results would collapse even more !! Ditto if we take 8% ...
Does everyone agree there?
Pfizer is not very effective against the delta to fight against hospitalizations according to this analysis ... for sheaves and deaths we will see later!
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GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Raoult confirms. Once again you are the prey of your fixed ideas and shit that plays on fear.
Raoult confirms what he sees in his IHU, which from memory has around 120 beds (not all covid) and no sheave beds.
The DREES compiles all the national data.
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sicetaitsimple wrote:GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Raoult confirms. Once again you are the prey of your fixed ideas and shit that plays on fear.
Raoult confirms what he sees in his IHU, which from memory has around 120 beds (not all covid) and no sheave beds.
The DREES compiles all the national data.
The DRESS tells what suits her.
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Re: Reduction in vaccine efficacy (variants, duration of immunity ...) to 64% in Israel on contamination in the Delta
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it is sure that he cannot see it elsewhere, even if he receives, like all hospitals, a lot of contradictory informationRaoult confirms what he sees in his IHU,
this is a good sign, it means that its early treatment prevents it from reaching the sheave. That's great for the sick to be treated!which from memory has about 120 beds (not all covid) and no sheave beds.
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GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:The DRESS tells what suits her.
Of course .... The best way to know everything is to refer to Guygadebois. He knows everything, the real numbers, everything I tell you! It will not take long to release a counter-study to that of the DREES.
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Janic wrote: this is a good sign, it means that its early treatment prevents it from reaching the sheave. That's great for the sick to be treated!
Uh no, that means that when things start to go wrong, he sends his patient to another establishment in Marseille hospitals!
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sicetaitsimple wrote:GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:The DRESS tells what suits her.
Of course .... The best way to know everything is to refer to Guygadebois. He knows everything, the real numbers, everything I tell you! It will not take long to release a counter-study to that of the DREES.
Shut up Kiki, in the doghouse:
Regarding the effectiveness of vaccines on the Delta variant, while according to scientists from DREES, 96% of positive symptomatic cases identified from June 28 to July 4 were not vaccinated, Didier Raoult asserts that "the vaccine works obviously less well with the Delta variant ". “At the moment, we have 15% of cases that are linked to the Delta variant in people who have been vaccinated,” says the doctor.
https://www.medisite.fr/les-vaccins-did ... 24535.html
Lie, one more.
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