izentrop wrote:How do you do that without cash?
Money IS JUST THE underlying PROBLEM of warming ... the problem cannot be the solution!
Think about it in the evening and answer tomorrow ...
izentrop wrote:How do you do that without cash?
Your thought joins that of MooreChristophe wrote:Money IS JUST THE underlying PROBLEM of warming ... the problem cannot be the solution!izentrop wrote:How do you do that without cash?
Think about it in the evening and answer tomorrow ...
https://www.goodplanet.info/2020/05/04/ ... ael-moore/Yes Mr. Moore, technology alone will not save us yet it will be essential to achieve it. No, money will not save us, but it must be massively invested in clean energies and all the activities that will allow human beings to continue to inhabit the planet which is a miracle of the universe, ours, that of the plant and animal world.
"... The co-founders
The co-founders renounce personal enrichment, since they do not expect any increase in value from their shares and they cap their remuneration at 4 minimum wage: a significant saving compared to traditional funds. On the other hand, they have the free conduct of the project in the long term, and they have built the tool for that. The status of T4P is that of Société en Commandite par Action (SCA), a status rarely associated with the general interest (it is that of Lagardère, for example), but which ensures the long-term autonomy of co-founders (the general partners), irremovable and with full management powers: they appoint the managers of the company (themselves), chair the general meeting of shareholders, and approve its decisions. Their financial risk is limited, as is their remuneration, since their shares are grouped together in a company which shields the general partner's liability for his personal property .... "
Eric Dupont wrote:https://www.finance-gestion.com/vox-fi/time-for-the-planet/"... The co-founders
The co-founders renounce personal enrichment, since they do not expect any increase in value from their shares and they cap their remuneration at 4 minimum wage: a significant saving compared to traditional funds. On the other hand, they have the free conduct of the project in the long term, and they have built the tool for that. The status of T4P is that of Société en Commandite par Action (SCA), a status rarely associated with the general interest (it is that of Lagardère, for example), but which ensures the long-term autonomy of co-founders (the general partners), irremovable and with full management powers: they appoint the managers of the company (themselves), chair the general meeting of shareholders, and approve its decisions. Their financial risk is limited, as is their remuneration, since their shares are grouped together in a company which shields the general partner's liability for his personal property .... "
how is it possible to have no added value?
As many investors as possible are expected to be T4M shareholders. They too renounce any personal enrichment: they know that the stock will not increase and that the company will not pay dividends. They have a dual role, that of providing money, and that of approving projects (on the basis of one action, one vote) and above all of discussing and pushing them. The advantage of T4P projects compared to those of traditional funds will be discussed, improved and supported by a growing community of shareholders who will be their salespeople, their innovative strength, their customers, their partners ... (because other funds, incubators, business angels, public investment bodies and BPI may not be doing this ?? And have you ever seen a volunteer salesperson?)
The action is and will always be worth one euro, because the company will permanently issue, once or twice a year, new shares at this price, through a capital increase a first is in progress, aiming to increase the capital to € 600.000 by integrating the declarations of intent already collected). The shares are negotiable, but after notification to the company which may or may not acquire (the logic is that it does not). A redemption by T4P is possible within 10 years, also at one euro per share (the commitment is moral and not legal). The non-distribution of dividends is obtained by statutes which send it back… to the day when global warming will have returned to that of the pre-industrial era!
Christophe wrote:Eric Dupont wrote:https://www.finance-gestion.com/vox-fi/time-for-the-planet/"... The co-founders
The co-founders renounce personal enrichment, since they do not expect any increase in value from their shares and they cap their remuneration at 4 minimum wage: a significant saving compared to traditional funds. On the other hand, they have the free conduct of the project in the long term, and they have built the tool for that. The status of T4P is that of Société en Commandite par Action (SCA), a status rarely associated with the general interest (it is that of Lagardère, for example), but which ensures the long-term autonomy of co-founders (the general partners), irremovable and with full management powers: they appoint the managers of the company (themselves), chair the general meeting of shareholders, and approve its decisions. Their financial risk is limited, as is their remuneration, since their shares are grouped together in a company which shields the general partner's liability for his personal property .... "
how is it possible to have no added value?
Very good article on how it works !!
I notice that I have been backbiting, mea culpa. I will insert it in the 1st message.
The 600 € are therefore not yet released with this kind of company if I understood correctly.
But I imagine that for the creation it is necessary to release a certain amount of these 600 k € ... 10%? 30% ? 50%? I don't want to dig into the law.
I remind you that the capital of a company is a DONATION to this one by its founders ... and in this case it is a donation for everyone there:As many investors as possible are expected to be T4M shareholders. They too renounce any personal enrichment: they know that the stock will not increase and that the company will not pay dividends. They have a dual role, that of providing money, and that of approving projects (on the basis of one action, one vote) and above all of discussing and pushing them. The advantage of T4P projects compared to those of traditional funds will be discussed, improved and supported by a growing community of shareholders who will be their salespeople, their innovative strength, their customers, their partners ... (because other funds, incubators, business angels, public investment bodies and BPI may not be doing this ?? And have you ever seen a volunteer salesperson?)
The share is and will always be worth one euro, because the company will permanently issue, once or twice a year, new shares at this price, by capital increase a first is in progress, aiming to increase the capital to € 600.000 by integrating the declarations of intent already collected). The shares are negotiable, but after notification to the company which may or may not acquire (the logic is that it does not). A redemption by T4P is possible within 10 years, also at one euro per share (the commitment is moral and not legal). The non-distribution of dividends is obtained by statutes which send it back… to the day when global warming will have returned to that of the pre-industrial era!
In short, you can go there if you are rich enough!
I look forward to seeing their 1st project supported ...
I remain very skeptical all the same ...
To answer your question in a company balance sheet it is very easy not to make any added value ... it is enough that in the balance sheet the charges exceed the receipts, we therefore have a profit before negative tax ... and the charges include salaries. So a company can create 100 jobs, hence wealth, but not to realize any added value at the accounting level. This was the case with Tesla for a long time ... and this has been the case for countless companies since the covid crisis ...
Yet the stock market is exploding at the moment ... proof that it is completely disconnected from economic reality (but we already knew that) ...
Your remark surprises me since you have a company it seems to me. Did your accountant never explain that to you?
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