The grain of sand in the machine (economical) - Arte

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Re: The grain of sand in the machine (economical) - Arte




by ABC2019 » 15/03/21, 08:35

a minimum of objectivity in the figures shows that it is not "the addition which Mother Nature will present to us" which will end the banquet, but simply the exhaustion of the resources which feed it.
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by Janic » 15/03/21, 08:58

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it is true that we can really wonder about the reasons why so many people prefer to have a society where we have food in abundance everywhere, where we can be treated effectively in modern and well-equipped hospitals, study up to he is 25 years old to have jobs that are not very tiring physically and well paid, and to stop at 62 years old, taking advantage of his free time to travel the world, rather than living like in the Middle Ages. It's really incomprehensible.

Always stupid reasoning! You confuse the illusion of better being with real well-being. There is a law which wants that what one gains on one side, it is to lose as much of it on the other (yin, yang) To want to see only one side of the part, it is s 'delusion about its real value.
we have food in abundance everywhere,
But it is extremely polluted, devitalized, deficient
you can be treated effectively in modern and well-equipped hospitals
and die there for lack of appropriate care, well equipped or not: 157.000 annual deaths from cancer, maddening rise in autism partly linked to vaccines, etc ...
study until the age of 25 to have jobs that are not very tiring physically and well paid,
That was valid 50 years ago, not more today and the universities are also and above all packaging factories, skull-stuffing as they were planned in the "good days" of State Catholicism.
We leave individuals with their heads full to the brim that no longer leaves room for personal and experimental reflection of real life. You are the typical example.
Between a pseudo Middle Ages (ridiculous) what supposedly better age is under construction: violence, unemployment (even at 25 years old,) excessive industrialization, totalitarianism, etc.… a bright future in prospect! : Cry:
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Re: The grain of sand in the machine (economical) - Arte




by Ahmed » 15/03/21, 09:28

My message was obscure, because it was not sufficiently developed: this should be seen as an allegory and a parallel with certain parasites which manipulate their hosts. I am not sure that if I specify that it is about a "real-abstraction" it powerfully lights your lantern, oh Eclectron ? : Mrgreen:
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by Janic » 15/03/21, 10:10

Ahmed »15 / 03 / 21, 10: 28

My message was obscure, because it was not sufficiently developed: this should be seen as an allegory and a parallel with certain parasites which manipulate their hosts. I am not sure that if I specify that it is about a "real-abstraction" that lights up your lantern powerfully, O Eclectron?
it is moreover frightening (to human sight) to see how much certain hosts adapt themselves to their parasites sometimes without damage, but more often to their detriment, even their death!
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by eclectron » 15/03/21, 10:43

Ahmed wrote:some parasites that manipulate their hosts. : Mrgreen:

I had understood the general idea, however, the expression in detail disturbed me but I just understood ...
So rather Bââs eclectron. : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:

OK, the parasite is thesurvival instinct in a sphere where he has nothing to do, that is to say the sphere of thought.
Parasite commonly called ego with its train of fears.
Big difference with a real external parasite, we are the parasite and we are individually responsible for the expression or not, of the parasite.
Is this a book summarized in one sentence? : Lol:
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by Janic » 15/03/21, 10:47

Africa, a huge continent, should not be reduced to its few desert regions where there is a lack of water or rather, access to water. The rest has as much water as anywhere else!
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by Ahmed » 15/03/21, 12:03

Janic, parasitism cannot be summed up like this and coevolution also produces happy synergies
Eclectron: no that's not it! :P These are thermodynamic determinisms, themselves synthesized in each particular social synthesis as a fetishist constraint ... But the work is not limited to this single aspect ...
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by ABC2019 » 15/03/21, 12:09

Janic wrote:a B C
it is true that we can really wonder about the reasons why so many people prefer to have a society where we have food in abundance everywhere, where we can be treated effectively in modern and well-equipped hospitals, study up to he is 25 years old to have jobs that are not very tiring physically and well paid, and to stop at 62 years old, taking advantage of his free time to travel the world, rather than living like in the Middle Ages. It's really incomprehensible.

Always stupid reasoning! You confuse the illusion of better being with real well-being. There is a law which wants that what one gains on one side, it is to lose as much of it on the other (yin, yang) To want to see only one side of the part, it is s 'delusion about its real value.
we have food in abundance everywhere,
But it is extremely polluted, devitalized, deficient
you can be treated effectively in modern and well-equipped hospitals
and die there for lack of appropriate care, well equipped or not: 157.000 annual deaths from cancer, maddening rise in autism partly linked to vaccines, etc ...
study until the age of 25 to have jobs that are not very tiring physically and well paid,
That was valid 50 years ago, not more today and the universities are also and above all packaging factories, skull-stuffing as they were planned in the "good days" of State Catholicism.
We leave individuals with their heads full to the brim that no longer leaves room for personal and experimental reflection of real life. You are the typical example.
Between a pseudo Middle Ages (ridiculous) what supposedly better age is under construction: violence, unemployment (even at 25 years old,) excessive industrialization, totalitarianism, etc.… a bright future in prospect! : Cry:


that's what I was just saying, it's incomprehensible that so many people want it anyway !!!

and in addition when you see that there are even those who risk their lives to try to benefit from it in our countries while they are so happy to have food certainly in very limited quantity but without fertilizers or pesticides, no 'hospitals injecting them with chemicals, and where they are not bothered to send them to school (especially the girls who are really useless, frankly, anyway they spend their lives fetching water and to make kids ....).

Truly unbelievable !!
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by Janic » 15/03/21, 12:35

Abc / pedro
and in addition when you see that there are even those who risk their lives to try to benefit from it in our countries while they are so happy to have food certainly in very limited quantity but without fertilizers or pesticides, no 'hospitals injecting them with chemicals, and where they are not bothered to send them to school (especially the girls who are really useless, frankly, anyway they spend their lives fetching water and to make kids ....).
Truly unbelievable !!
still an aggravated debility!
that they are so happy to have food that is certainly in very limited quantity but without fertilizers or pesticides,
agro-biology is not in limited quantity it is just not in the Western model of overproduction
no hospitals injecting them with chemicals,
a chance for them, which our institutions under totalitarianism of BP, can no longer afford.
where we do not bother them to send them to school (especially the girls who are really useless, frankly, anyway they spend their lives fetching water and making kids ....)
you mean our country ... barely a century ago?
Where are we in terms of gender equality? Since when have women been entitled to occupations considered to be reserved for men? Since when do women have the right to vote? To have a personal account and to have his own income? Etc ... and how many centuries did it take to achieve this with difficulty. Truly unbelievable ! that these countries do not have unlimited funds to achieve this!
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Re: The grain of sand in the machine (economical) - Arte




by ABC2019 » 15/03/21, 12:53

Janic wrote:Abc / pedro
and in addition when you see that there are even those who risk their lives to try to benefit from it in our countries while they are so happy to have food certainly in very limited quantity but without fertilizers or pesticides, no 'hospitals injecting them with chemicals, and where they are not bothered to send them to school (especially the girls who are really useless, frankly, anyway they spend their lives fetching water and to make kids ....).
Truly unbelievable !!
still an aggravated debility!
that they are so happy to have food that is certainly in very limited quantity but without fertilizers or pesticides,
agro-biology is not in limited quantity it is just not in the Western model of overproduction

it is even more incomprehensible then, why do they risk their lives on ships if they have in addition abundant and healthy food?

but hey it may be that you make a slight confusion between western organic agriculture which still uses machines and petroleum tractors, and traditional agriculture which was done without inputs but also entirely by hand or by animal power .
Where are we in terms of gender equality? Since when have women been entitled to occupations considered to be reserved for men? Since when do women have the right to vote? To have a personal account and to have his own income? Etc ... and how many centuries did it take to achieve this with difficulty. Truly unbelievable ! that these countries do not have unlimited funds to achieve this!

well, I thought we lived much better before precisely, when we didn't have all that? but you make me doubt there ...
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