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by Christophe » 02/11/07, 13:40

Yesterday we came across an excellent documentary broadcast on RTBF1 and concerning the increasingly "inhuman" working conditions (psychologically speaking at least) established by large companies between the different hierarchy levels but also between the employees themselves. ...

Analysis of the world wrote:The documentary work of Jean-Michel Carré, who began his career in militant cinema, has for many years been fed by major social problems, from prison life to the status of prostitution. Today, it is tackling a problem that is more and more often mentioned in recent years: the changing working conditions and the often deleterious, sometimes tragic, consequences that they take on in men's lives. This TV movie, which was broadcast in a substantially different version in October 2006 on Canal +, betrays its origin by seeking first and foremost the clarity of the message and the effectiveness of the demonstration.

In this respect, he will not disappoint. A very tight assembly is thus followed one hundred per hour by the victims of the work and the specialists of the question (from the political scientist Paul Ariès to the psychoanalyst Christophe Dejours), to end up constituting a rather overwhelming picture of the working conditions in our society . Destruction of forms of collective solidarity, loneliness and competition of employees, permanent evaluation system and encouragement of denouncement, use of management techniques that hide the individual in favor of the only return it can produce: all concords it seems today to dehumanize the world of work, to deprive it of the wealth and creativity that it can ideally conceal.

The result of this policy, which now applies to all levels of the company, is an exponential increase in work pathologies, from chronic depression to suicide. Between the speeches of the speakers, the director slides regularly in his film statistical information that fits coldly on the screen and that, in fact, cold on the back.

After They did not die all but all were struck by Sophie Bruneau and Marc-Antoine Roudil (documentary released in February 2006) or the recent fiction by Nicolas Klotz, The Human Question, the world of work therefore seems to become the platform for privileged observation of major contemporary social and economic changes. The thing is so true for the psychoanalyst Christophe Dejours that he does not hesitate to note, by connecting this problematic to the dramatic situation of the suburbs, that our society has once again entered a "period of decadence".


http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0 ... 580,0.html

I particularly liked the passage where a psychoanalyst (Christophe Dejours, psychoanalyst at the CNAM) treats young engineers (commercial in this case) fresh out of school as "morons" according to a pre-established doctrine (formatting) ... it is the same person who speaks of decadence ....
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by jean63 » 03/11/07, 12:11

It's been a long time since this story was known.

I was personally a victim ..... but not defeated because they paid in court.

A book was written on the subject Marie France Hirigoyen being one of the first to speak about it in a book entitled "Moral harassment: violence PERVERSE in everyday life" in 1.

Everything is said in the title, the only word perverse alone shows well the perversion of the human being (not all humans happily), which does not exist in animals.

To make the other suffer for the pleasure or the ambition of destroying it morally for many reasons (often power and money) is the characteristic of man. It is not related to the intelligence, indeed among the Nazis who committed the worst atrocities in the concentration camps, there were very intelligent people and very graduated (especially to direct the camps of extermination of the Jews and other resistant).

Nowadays perversion is increasingly implemented by these crevices in the workplace; there would be a huge job of purification, but unfortunately it is often small vicious and perverse leaders who lead the boat with the blessing of their superiors.

In this HUMAN adventure, the weakest commit suicide because they can not react enough to stem the hatred that these perverts bring to them.

In my opinion it should end badly, because we have not had a Great WAR for more than 60 years and the pressure cooker is under pressure, so it should explode soon, maybe before the Arctic does. melted !!!

A sentence in the book summarizes this behavior well:

"To accept themselves, narcissistic perverts must triumph and destroy someone else by feeling superior. They enjoy the suffering of others. To assert themselves, they must DESTROY."

Page 133.

This book helps to understand many things in the behavior of some people around us and / or lead us (policies to others).

Hey, a site that presents the play "Attains" which is released in Brussels =>
http://atteintes.izicom.com/1.htm ;
We find very disturbing information in this site:
The sanction of age
In France, the target of harassment is rather an adult whose
the age is between 40 and 50 years. Harassment appears as a
true sanction of age.
People who resist formatting are frequent targets of
harassment: employees who are too honest, too dynamic, too idealistic,
or honest, etc.
...... I recognize myself there.

In the site there is reference to 2 books MF Hirigoyen which one I mentioned more hat, MFH a reference in the field. What she writes is very disturbing for human relations because harassment is not only present in the workplace but in any social relationship and also in the couple ..... damage for children!

The only solutions to escape these dirty tasks: being NULL in his job, being fake ass, boot licks and tongue of wood ..... we could align many others in the genre.

this could be the subject of a specific theme, because econology surely also involves respect for the other ESPECIALLY if he is honest, competent, hardworking and without language (because this quality allows to say all the lies without any qualms): promises without a future => see for example the Grenelle of the environment: it will be necessary to count the positive points in a few months.
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by Flytox » 03/11/07, 20:45

Bonjour à tous

In this straight line, there is now the "culture of pressure".
Now the new God is the "indicator" who sets the trend. It is necessary to follow the indicator, that it is relevant is moreover secondary. The big boss does not know the job but he said! : Lol:

If the indicator "is not at the target", the pressure must be passed on. That is to say that we have a mission to go directly to do "audits, trainings, give the good word" remonstrances in fact, just to share the pressure with colleagues. :?

That the colleague has 4 times more work than he can decently do, that's not a problem! You have to follow the indicator. When we point out to the hierarchy that adding indefinitely to work on certain stations with finite resources is nonsense the only answer we can get is "we must prioritize ". :|

Here the word "hire" is taboo and the buzzword is "subcontract". The rule: the price that the subcontracting costs does not have any kind of importance (x2 or even x3), the main thing is to put the maximum activity outside, that the subcontractor knows how to do or not ..... we'll see after ! There will always be time to put the pressure on the subcontractor ....

I was going to forget on the one hand there are the good words for new hires "dialogue, respect, career profile, communication, fulfillment in one's work, deployment of skills, potential opportunities to expand one's field of activity and build a diversified professional path rich in new experiences .... "on the other hand, reality with the eternal restructuring.

Whether you are good or bad, even if you are the reference in your sector of activity, the structure takes precedence over individuals. So when the organization has forgotten you, regardless of your function even regulated by law, it no longer exists. From there to recognize your diplomas / skills .... must not dream!

This is the hierarchy that I do not wish you.

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by Christophe » 30/03/13, 11:50

Albert Jacquard: The Future of Work (1998 already ...)

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by wirbelwind262 » 11/04/13, 19:12

Hello
Thank you Christophe for the links.
the documentary "The killing of work" in 3 parts:
the dispossession

alienation

the destruction
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by chatelot16 » 11/04/13, 19:50

it's like being on the subject humor ... work is a disease: the proof is the medicine of work!


but alas it is more serious ... there have been periods of history where slavery was better organized than the present work

not so long ago Taylorism was very positive ... Taylorism is not increasing productivity by pressure: it is asking the manager to set up the right organization to work more tiring less

now we are back a century before taylor, we put pressure to demand more without putting in place any effective way

we did effective Taylorism for the workers in the well-organized factory ... but higher up in the office we never organized anything properly ... we put absurd pressure on people to kill each other
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by Ahmed » 11/04/13, 20:41

Chatelot16, you write this:
... Taylorism has been very positive ...

Taylorism has been the means of creating the consumer society, in the sense that it has increased prodigiously productivity (associated with other innovations) and especially because it has been able to promote the desire of this type of society in counterpart of the frustration he was causing.
This is the biggest scam, since the victims have adhered to their alienation: in exchanges of comfort (?), They renounced the minimum autonomy they had before.
The effectiveness of this system is mainly due to the illusion of seeming to reconcile opposing interests: the enrichment of the poor and the rich!
For the leaders, it was mainly a way to increase their profits, limited until then by the narrowness of the market and then to increase their power by eliminating trades, to replace them with stupid and degraded tasks, allocated to a helpless and substitutable labor at will.
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by chatelot16 » 11/04/13, 20:58

taylor Taylorism: it was simply a means of efficiency ... the result was sadder taylor was dead when ford did something else

when I was in school it was fashionable to criticize Taylorism, and there was no internet to learn more

taylor to improve the efficiency of the industry ... what has been done with this improvement is another thing ... if it had been better understood we would have done less bullshit

for me precisely when one wants to improve the productivity, the taylor method is to have people competant to find real solution ... the current method in the kind to put the pressure without giving the good way it is a return to back

I do not even say back to slavery, because the Roman slave was better treated than some current employee

a slave if you kill him at the spot you have to buy another one ... an employee if he cracks the others are queuing at pole job and it costs nothing
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by Ahmed » 11/04/13, 21:31

The consequence of Taylorism was the disappearance of the working class, its dissolution in the middle class; today only remains to complete the work: to destroy the middle class, which has become useless, to ensure the triumph of the elites.

The process is underway and is going wonderfully, the 99%, for their overwhelming majority, only dream (that's the word!) Of a derisory "virtuous capitalism"!
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