money creation and scam income tax by Étienne Chouard

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by Obamot » 30/05/16, 14:07

As long as you say you are "dropped"how could you judge? : Cheesy:

izentrop wrote:And in clear? because here I am dropped!


For Izentrop the b_a ba:

Inflation >>>
Deflation >>>
disinflation >>>
Stagflation >>>
hyperinflation >>>

And then, if you want to follow what Ahmed, Christophe or Sen-no-Sen say: you will have to unlearn all that : Mrgreen:
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by Ahmed » 30/05/16, 15:07

Chouard,Asselineau and some others maintain the illusion that institutional reforms would be enough to clean up the functioning of our societies, without taking into account real determinisms, otherwise more ... determining (sic!).
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by pedrodelavega » 30/05/16, 18:33

Ahmed wrote:Just for you ( 8) I am trying to summarize:
- 1) increase in productivity => decrease in commodity prices; => unemployment (...)


Since the time that productivity exists (very long in fact), the unemployment rate should be close to 100% ...

The analysis can also read:
productivity => fall in prices => increase in the purchasing power of the average pequin who will spend this remainder on another item of consumption (new demand) => creation of other jobs (new supply)
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by phil53 » 30/05/16, 19:08

Dear pedrodelavega it must come straight out of a book, it misses the exponential growth where the trees grow higher than the sky.
In what world do we live for so simplistic ideas to prevail? :P
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by Obamot » 30/05/16, 19:20

Perfectly Phil: school! This is what those who want to play the tenors and who are the first door in the face when they open a little too! This pinboard is ridiculous even no boss would want it! The "lower selling price"does not have its direct correlation in the"increased demand "Any good business manager would see this at first glance, unless you have a captive or niche market that would deploy mechanically depending on the price drop !?

No, the real engine of the "increase in demand" it's the needs/ s (we learn this in any good marketing course) it can primarily be corellated only if a high price limited the accession to the coveted good / service (but it is not automatic, for example if an engineer found the technical means to reduce the cost of construction of the bridges suspended by ten, it does not mean that the housewives would rush to Auchan to get it : Mrgreen: Is not it Izentrop? : Wink:
(nice nickname by the way anyway this "Fox"avenger ... who is definitely at the" right time "to come" save "you?) : Wink:
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by Obamot » 30/05/16, 19:37

Good stop you [moderated by Remundo, be sure to stay courteous, thanks] now !

When you know what you're talking about ... you'll come back (moderated)
I understand better now your interventions (moderate) in this forum 8) : Shock:
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by Christophe » 30/05/16, 19:44

izentrop wrote:Give credit to this populist Chouard, that's common sense too? http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/societe/ ... ouard.html


And Philippe Seguin was also a populist?

I regret his links with Soral, I was not aware ...

But when you want to get rid of your dog, you say he has rabies ...
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by Christophe » 30/05/16, 19:47

Ahmed wrote:Chouard,Asselineau and some others maintain the illusion that institutional reforms would be enough to clean up the functioning of our societies, without taking into account real determinisms, otherwise more ... determining (sic!).


Maybe not so illusory ... but deep it's certain!

Which real determinisms do you think exactly?
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by Ahmed » 30/05/16, 19:51

Pedro, you write:
Since the time that productivity exists (very long in fact), the unemployment rate should be close to 100% ...
The analysis can also read:
productivity => fall in prices => increase in the purchasing power of the average pequin who will spend this remainder on another item of consumption (new demand) => creation of other jobs (new supply)

This is perfectly correct at a given moment and assuming things are almost static, which is already wrong since the statement, since we are dealing with decreases and increases ...
In fact, and as I mentioned earlier, productivity increases do not automatically translate into lower employment: there is a shift from one sector to another and so on (from the agricultural sector to the economy). industry, then from industry to the tertiary sector), except that the process necessarily hinges on a terminal at a given moment. The tertiary sector was a refuge for employment as long as the computer revolution finally introduced a destructive productivity of employment. The old analysis of Schumpeter The process of "creative destruction" only accounts for reality at certain very specific stages and, today, destruction largely takes precedence over creation.
As noted Obamot, if we look at things from the point of view of demand * (and although the concept of "need" is highly suspect), we have to admit that the innovations which made the heyday of the world are not flourishing. after the war, no innovation likely to lead to the masses of purchases ** necessary for the remuneration of the mass of capital currently existing.

* Without even considering the question of purchasing power, which nevertheless constitutes a serious obstacle, although maintained artificially high because of continuous injections of fictitious capital.
** And which should be well above the previous wave of household equipment in household appliances and automobile, central heating, etc ...
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