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by Exnihiloest » 03/07/21, 17:01

@ Lemur

It is necessary that the small speculators have fun. If they bear the brunt of the big guys, they will have had the hope of the big bang, and hope gives life ... : Lol:
I don't think anyone is fooled by the situation, so it's a choice "between consenting adults". In games of chance, it does not seem to me more amoral than casino games, or worse than the lottery or the trifecta where it is the state that scams.
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by lemur » 03/07/21, 21:13

Exnihiloest wrote:@ Lemur

It is necessary that the small speculators have fun. If they bear the brunt of the big guys, they will have had the hope of the big bang, and hope gives life ... : Lol:
I don't think anyone is fooled by the situation, so it's a choice "between consenting adults". In games of chance, it does not seem to me more amoral than casino games, or worse than the lottery or the trifecta where it is the state that scams.



I don't think it's accidental at all. When I buy Matic at 3 cents, I don't do it at random. I don't sell at random either. I fully respect this vision of things but it is not mine. The crypto market is recent but, technically, it is traded in the same way as the traditional market (cac40, Nasdaq et cie) But each has their own vision of things.
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by Christophe » 10/09/21, 11:09

What were we saying in 2018?



Now for those who want to save long term in Bitcoin ... good luck!

They are still speculative tools today ...
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by phil53 » 10/09/21, 13:32

Christophe wrote:What were we saying in 2018?



Now for those who want to save long term in Bitcoin ... good luck!

They are still speculative tools today ...

I don't understand why you defend cryptos so much.
In 1 ecologically it makes no sense.
How would it be fairer?
The rich have more possibilities to become even richer and the others have many possibilities to lose or gain little. Basically it will be the same who will decide.
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by Christophe » 10/09/21, 13:42

I no longer defend them ... I believed in a hope to change finance ... villainous finance like speculation on foodstuffs, the finance that creates modern slavery ... but 4 years later nothing has happened. has really changed and when you see how crypto behaves as soon as this Musk c0nn4rd tweets a blow ... No thanks! Ultimately it's even worse than official villainous finance!

El Salvador has just considered bitcoin as a "national currency" ... Good luck to Salvadorans! : Shock: : Shock: : Shock:
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by lemur » 10/09/21, 13:46

The rich have more opportunity to become even richer because the poor refuse (for those who lose) to understand the market mechanisms behind it.
Regarding bitcoin and some projects developed on active cryptos have meaning and interest, and even more in the long term, only as long as the poor continue not to educate themselves on the subject, they will continue to lose.
Ecologically, it would be necessary to compare with other reserves of value to know the impact, gold for example. Or simply how much is consumed by rotating the printing press like the FED or the ECB does. We must nevertheless be aware of the devaluation of the dollar, and of the hold of this dollar over the rest of the world. I also recall that nearly 40% of the world's population does not have access to banking, and this is perfectly where bitcoin will develop.
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by lemur » 10/09/21, 13:52

Christophe wrote:I no longer defend them ... I believed in a hope to change finance ... villainous finance like speculation on foodstuffs, the finance that creates modern slavery ... but 4 years later nothing has happened. has really changed and when you see how crypto behaves as soon as this Musk c0nn4rd tweets a blow ... No thanks! Ultimately it's even worse than official villainous finance!

El Salvador has just considered bitcoin as a "national currency" ... Good luck to Salvadorans! : Shock: : Shock: : Shock:


El Salvador, however, keeps the US dollar.
Musk didn't create this move, he got paid for Twitter to justify this move. Like others before him, the actress of Game of Thrones in 2017, Stéphen Curry this week. No matter.
I think you're wrong, this is just the beginning, I don't think bitcoin will replace fiat currencies, however its growth is not about to stop in the long run.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 10/09/21, 13:55

Since 2016, Bitcoin has been presented in the international press as an accelerator of ecological disaster. However, when you take a closer look, the power consumption of mining this cryptocurrency is relatively negligible. And in the long term, its development could even promote the energy transition. In its September 2020 issue, Usbek & Rica looked at the subject in an article that we reproduce here in full.


"Some of the major video game consoles, used four hours a day, consume more electricity than all of Bitcoin mining"

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"Crypto mining buys surplus hydraulic dams, providing green producers with new financial resources"
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If the attraction for gold is deeply rooted culturally, its mining is really catastrophic in ecological and human terms.

In addition to its monetary dimension and its banking function, supporters of Bitcoin see it as an alternative to traditional values, particularly gold. If the attraction for the yellow metal is very anchored culturally, its mining is, for the moment, really catastrophic on the ecological and human level: very high energy bill, pollution of the air, water and earth (mercury , lead, acids), deforestation, huge volumes of waste, not to mention the chronic illnesses of miners in contact with toxic fumes… “By openly disdaining Bitcoin for only holding and buying gold as a store of value, the Bank de France encourages two activities that are devastating for the environment, namely gold mining and gold panning, ”criticizes Pierre Noizat.

Finally, by consuming much less electricity than what is announced, by causing negligible pollution and by promoting the energy transition through the profitability of installations that would be unused without it, Bitcoin, far from being the environmental disaster that 'we kindly describe, could end up appearing as a small ecological miracle.


https://usbeketrica.com/fr/quel-est-l-i ... de-bitcoin

In short, all that was announced to us was still only the poison coming from the competitors of Bitcoin who tighten the buttocks ... : Mrgreen:
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by lemur » 10/09/21, 14:04

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:
Since 2016, Bitcoin has been presented in the international press as an accelerator of ecological disaster. However, when you take a closer look, the power consumption of mining this cryptocurrency is relatively negligible. And in the long term, its development could even promote the energy transition. In its September 2020 issue, Usbek & Rica looked at the subject in an article that we reproduce here in full.


"Some of the major video game consoles, used four hours a day, consume more electricity than all of Bitcoin mining"

...................
"Crypto mining buys surplus hydraulic dams, providing green producers with new financial resources"
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If the attraction for gold is deeply rooted culturally, its mining is really catastrophic in ecological and human terms.

In addition to its monetary dimension and its banking function, supporters of Bitcoin see it as an alternative to traditional values, particularly gold. If the attraction for the yellow metal is very anchored culturally, its mining is, for the moment, really catastrophic on the ecological and human level: very high energy bill, pollution of the air, water and earth (mercury , lead, acids), deforestation, huge volumes of waste, not to mention the chronic illnesses of miners in contact with toxic fumes… “By openly disdaining Bitcoin for only holding and buying gold as a store of value, the Bank de France encourages two activities that are devastating for the environment, namely gold mining and gold panning, ”criticizes Pierre Noizat.

Finally, by consuming much less electricity than what is announced, by causing negligible pollution and by promoting the energy transition through the profitability of installations that would be unused without it, Bitcoin, far from being the environmental disaster that 'we kindly describe, could end up appearing as a small ecological miracle.


https://usbeketrica.com/fr/quel-est-l-i ... de-bitcoin

In short, all that was announced to us was still only the poison coming from the competitors of Bitcoin who tighten the buttocks ... : Mrgreen:


Which will likely serve as justification for an upcoming bullish move, in my opinion.
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by Christophe » 28/09/21, 13:18

A Hamster on Cryptos does better than human traders in traditional finance: https://trustmyscience.com/hamster-nego ... benefices/



Now think hard about Bouffon 1er's previous job! : Lol: : Lol: : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:
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