ALERTS !!!! Capitalism must disappear quickly

[Cuicui]

Real attempts outside capitalism have had catastrophic results due to the reality of human behavior

The problem is that some believed that capitalism should be replaced by communism, which, in some ways, has had worse results. The problem is not capitalism or communism as such, but their lawless, totalitarian excesses that crush people. Whatever the regimes, entrepreneurship must be given free rein while putting in place impartial gendarmes and police officers protecting the weak from the predatory and destructive madness of the strong.

[Gébé]

Whatever the diet, entrepreneurship must be given free rein while putting in place impartial gendarmes and police officers protecting the weak from the predatory and destructive madness of the strong.

I agree with that but "giving free rein to the spirit of enterprise" is in essence capitalism and as dedeleco emphasizes we (unfortunately) have no examples of other systems that have functioned sustainably.

[sen-no-sen]

The excesses of capitalism, like that of communism moreover, lies in the fact that any system implemented in a group ends up sooner or later finding a scale of dominance.

Starting from this reality linked to our mammalian heritage, it is high time to achieve a system abolishing this hierarchy, without which any attempt even based on good intentions (which is the case for communism) will go to failure.

[dedeleco]

Totally agree, the drifts are due to the appearance of dictatorships, capitalists, Nazis or communists, who go mad without the possibility of escaping their totalitarianism, of dictators or large dominant capitalist groups who impose their laws of power become delirious without limits.
In addition, their origin comes from our instinctive mammalian behavior toward a hierarchy, to seek and obey an effective leader who guides us in packs, like dogs, wolves, horses, cows, elephants, monkeys, etc.
So, we must avoid the whole world being ruled by a single chief, a single country, a single group, a single capitalist firm, a single overpowered country, pack or secret sect, without limits, eternally.
The typical mammal hierarchy is inevitable, we cannot abolish it, but it must remain at the size of small pack, and have a limited duration of a few years with strict controls on a larger scale.
So more than voting, the finite duration, from the chef, pack dominance, with cons, freedom from all kinds of counter powers, other varied packs, the press, free and multiple information, the freedom to undertake, to be responsible, with honest rules and laws and powerful and independent justice to enforce them, are the best security guards against the capitalist follies of firms with planetary monopolies, of countries overpowered by the caste, or of other systems, sects, totalitarian communists.

[netshaman]

The typical mammal hierarchy is inevitable

Maybe it will be when humans have evolved enough ...
Well yes we are there (at the scale of the universe) only for a very short time finally.
While all other species have millions of years if not billions of evolution, mankind has only been present for 10000 to 1 million years only.
It is a very recent species, and therefore very primitive, which must get rid of its instincts to become more advanced in its behavior.

We are just barbarians with an average level of technology after all!



So see you in a few millennia to see how it all has evolved!

[dedeleco]

Mammals are 200 million years old, and we are 50 million years old in primates with so much evolutionary time, and a large part of them have an instinct of hierarchy, dominant, dominated, survival, and So scientifically, for us humans, separated from monkeys for 6 million years (bipeds), 2 million years with tools, speech, and a bigger brain, and 200 years in homo sapiens, it is impossible to 'evolve and change this useful human instinct over less than a million years !!

This instinct is very useful for our survival, and therefore favored by the evolution in bands or tribes and therefore will be preserved.

Just avoid the absurd totalitarian deviances that we have known !!

[netshaman]

This instinct is very useful for our survival, and therefore favored by the evolution in bands or tribes and therefore will be kept.

You don't know that!

Neither am I .

To believe that evolution will remain frozen to the human is like believing in creationism: it makes no sense.

I believe that it will be replaced by another form of social interaction favoring altruism rather than egoism.
Because it is scientifically proven that a society made up of altruistic individuals is much more resistant to catastrophes and changes of all kinds (climate, etc.) than a society of egoistic individuals, despite the fact that the second seems to obey more. instinct of self-preservation (ie, "I must survive at all costs") and the first not ("I sacrifice myself for the common good") which seems paradoxical at first glance.

And as the way of thinking is intimately linked to matter, well human will evolve in a physical way too.

[Cuicui]

"giving free rein to the spirit of enterprise" is in essence capitalism

Not necessarily. In China, entrepreneurship is encouraged. And we would have to agree on the term “capitalism”.

[Gébé]

The two things that remain communist in China are the statue of Mao and the name of the single ruling party .... for the rest .....

[sen-no-sen]

The typical mammal hierarchy is inevitable, we cannot abolish it, but it must remain at the size of small pack, and have a limited duration of a few years with strict controls on a larger scale.

Indeed difficult to fight against our instincts.
However, the pyramid-type governance system, typically mammalian, is no longer suited to our society.

It is clear that the more our species evolves over time, the more it behaves like a microorganism.
It is therefore necessary to adapt a system of governance
Multi-polar, or decisions must be taken by the whole, in order to guarantee an operation not dictated by the weight of dominance, this could be called the democracy (the truth).