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by antoinet111 » 31/01/12, 21:50

Flytox wrote:That's when we do it like that ????????????? 8)



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by the middle » 01/02/12, 07:44

It is true that since 2008, no more word on this country.
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by the middle » 01/02/12, 09:28

Look at the wicked Hungarian president or prime minister, he's firing all the old judges ...
We don't say they are old judges Communists.
This president Orban..ho, the bad guy, the lame duck of the union, he wants to nationalize the banks ... like in Iceland : Cheesy:
Scratch the info, and don't listen to the Bouigues TV news
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by Flytox » 01/02/12, 21:46

lejustemilieu wrote:Look at the wicked Hungarian president or prime minister, he's firing all the old judges ...
We don't say they are old judges Communists.
This president Orban..ho, the bad guy, the lame duck of the union, he wants to nationalize the banks ... like in Iceland : Cheesy:
Scratch the info, and don't listen to the Bouigues TV news


Indeed now that you say that ..... on the radio he put a weird shot at him saying that he was attacking the press etc ..... the most anti democratic European country .... .journalists are going to be less inclined to make things right. Did you think of an information orchestration?
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by Cuicui » 02/02/12, 00:23

Flytox wrote:When we do the same here

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by the middle » 02/02/12, 08:39

Before the first Csángós were sworn in, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, from the steps of the National Museum, addressed a crowd of more than twenty thousand people: "We Hungarians have sworn right here never to be slaves again."

Everyone had in mind what these words proclaimed on the 163rd anniversary of the anti-Habsburg revolution meant: on March 15, 1848, the fathers of the Hungarian Revolution forced the imperial governor to yield to the twelve demands of the Hungarian revolutionaries, including freedom of the press and the abolition of censorship.

"The oath of March 15 commits us. This oath means that every Hungarian will defend every Hungarian, and all together we will defend Hungary." Orbán perfectly used the symbolism of March: "Faithful to our oath, we did not accept the Vienna diktat of 1848, then we opposed Moscow in 1956 and 1990. Today we will not allow anyone to dictate driving from Brussels."

http://www.presseurop.eu/fr/content/art ... ktor-orban
Barosso not happy ....To answer your Flytox question, I think that at the moment, when a TV info is important, you have to type the keywords on google and check if there is no counter info, and make yourself judge- even of the truth.
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by the middle » 02/02/12, 08:59

If I still scratch a little:
The head of government is the subject of criticism for having amended the Hungarian Constitution in order in particular to underline the importance of religion with an explicit reference to "God" and to delete the mention "Republic of Hungary" in favor of " Hungary". His detractors saw it as a nationalist turn.

"Maybe we are in the minority with this position in Europe, but we have the freedom to represent it," he said. He also denounced a "political offensive against Hungary" and in the financial field, coming from outside, at a time when the country is in great difficulty and asks for international loans.

In this regard, he warned that he was only asking for "precautionary aid" and did not intend to let his conduct dictate, contrary to what is happening in his eyes for Greece.

"If the IMF wants to grant us loans very well, we will be very satisfied," he said during a press conference, organized after his speech to MEPs.

"But a situation like in Greece where the Germans say they won't give loans if the Greeks don't do what they want, I don't want to give this idea "of Hungary," he said..

"We do not want money from Germany, from the European Union," he continued, after having nevertheless requested a loan from the Europeans.

European Commission threatens to sue Hungarian government

HiHi, he was looking for money in China, the big smart. Not happy Barrooosssoooooo.
http://www.france24.com/fr/20120118-vik ... lallemagne
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by Christophe » 05/05/12, 09:38

5 minute video that sums up the Icelandic silent revolution and this "lesson in democracy":



(on the other hand some video passages are not from Iceland!)
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by Christophe » 14/12/12, 23:03

Iceland is delighted to have abandoned its banks

In the aftermath of the agreements concluded in Brussels on the night of Wednesday to Thursday around the creation of a banking supervision operated by the European Central Bank, Olafur Ragnar Grimsson, the Icelandic president, allowed himself to taunt the European Union by commending for dropping the banks. A “difficult but decisive” decision for the economic recovery of his country. And contrary to the European approach.


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Source: http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/1536/Economi ... ques.dhtml
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by Christophe » 02/02/13, 21:50

YEAHHH and a jurisprudence to redo apply! A !!

Bankruptcy: justice rules Iceland

After the bankruptcy of the bank Landsbanki, Iceland refused to reimburse the losses of British and Dutch savers. A European court proves him right.


Iceland had the right, when its banks collapsed in October 2008, to refuse to reimburse foreign savers, ruled the court of EFTA (European Free Trade Association) on Monday. The Court rejected the arguments presented by the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, said the court in its judgment.

The judgment was awaited on whether or not public money should save bankrupt banks. After the bankruptcy of the country's first private bank, Landsbanki, Iceland had to urgently nationalize its banking system, without being able to respond to the concerns of depositors of Icesave, an online bank subsidiary of Landsbanki prized by British and Dutch savers . At the time of the crash, Icesave had nearly 4 billion euros in deposits.

The British and Dutch governments then fully reimbursed Icesave's savings before claiming the bill from Reykjavik. But in 2010 and 2011, the Icelanders refused by referendum the reimbursement terms negotiated with London and The Hague, arguing that there was no legal obligation for them to bear the losses of a private bank. .

The European Commission has sued Iceland before the EFTA court for violating the European directive on deposit guarantees, which requires depositors of a bankrupt bank to provide a minimum of 20 euros. According to Iceland, the directive obliges the state to create a deposit guarantee fund but not to guarantee it with public money.

By selling Landbanski's assets, Iceland has already repaid half of the money owed and hopes to pay it all in three years.

Iceland welcomed the judgment on Monday, which is final. "Icesave is no longer an obstacle to the economic recovery of Iceland," the government said in a statement. "This case has been particularly difficult to handle from both a national and international perspective, and has caused, among other things, considerable delays in the implementation of the government's agenda," the executive said.

Foreign Minister Össur Skarphedinsson welcomed the respect of Icelandic sovereignty in this case. "We had a just cause," he told reporters. "I think that the defense in this case, the largest ever brought before the EFTA court, will set an example for the years to come in the annals of European law," he added.

(AFP)


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