GDP, growth and ecology: why is it blocking?

Current Economy and Sustainable Development-compatible? GDP growth (at all costs), economic development, inflation ... How concillier the current economy with the environment and sustainable development.
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by recyclinage » 23/03/10, 17:11

to rate the economy (purchase, sale)

and on the other, ecology (principle of non-consumption)

if we manage to couple the antagonists we would arrive at a consumption of polluted goods 0

but we are right before
when we turn the page and this page is in the middle

the question that this break now is how to achieve our extra comfortable lifestyle at the thought of putting our energy footprint at more or less zero

this economic crisis is the hinge between several streams of thought which inevitably must end in the same place
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by Ptilu » 23/03/10, 17:45

To tell the truth, continuing to oppose ecology and economy above all gives reason to capital, because Robert Bidochon (the ordinary Beijing with the inevitable beret-baguette), he will choose what in your opinion?

To tell the truth, the problem is that when capital says "long term", translate 5 years ... That's how we exterminate bees;)

But I thought that the users of this fofo 'had nevertheless managed to show the compatibility between these two apparently antagonistic currents. Isn't this site called econology?

We all agree that the construction of positive energy buildings will create a lot of wealth (employee salaries, real estate, intellectual property) as well as most of the actions possible. At the time, it will be expensive, but in the long term (more than 10 years) we will all be winners ...

But these objectives are contrary to capital, which refuses to invest over this period (at least in appearance), or to our policies, which are incapable of bearing the fallout from such decisions, which will undoubtedly be highly unpopular, or skillfully exploited by their opponents.
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by Christophe » 23/03/10, 17:50

recyclinage wrote:if we manage to couple the antagonists we would arrive at a consumption of polluted goods 0


Well done you understood the concept ofeconology ! (article partly taken up by Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cono ... 9cologique )

Otherwise pollution 0 (literally) does not exist ... well it all depends on your definition of pollution.

If it is modification (whatever it is) of the environment, then pollution 0 is a myth: walking and leaving a trace in the mud = pollution ... : Cheesy:
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by recyclinage » 23/03/10, 20:13

in football what you just did is called a leg pass

it's pretty and technical

Christophe wrote:walk and leave a trace in the mud = pollution ... : Cheesy:


let me guess
and water is pollution of dry land

:D
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by Christophe » 23/03/10, 21:17

It was an example by the absurd ...
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by recyclinage » 23/03/10, 21:40

if your goal is to demolish your own forum , ... mdr

https://www.econologie.com/forums/salsabass- ... t3917.html


I believe this is one of my major views on our condition

you are going to laugh

but a lot of things we change into positive

like breaking taboo word like ecology, nature, ...

or important philosophical awareness in our creations

actually you look at the glass

half empty
half full

I don't know, I booze the 2 glasses

mdr

long live art and freedom :)
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by Ptilu » 25/03/10, 12:37

Is it me, or as soon as Recycling speaks, we kill a post?
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by recyclinage » 25/03/10, 14:22

I don't prevent anyone from speaking

I only give my opinion

you give yours
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by aerialcastor » 25/03/10, 15:06

Ptilu wrote:Is it me, or as soon as Recycling speaks, we kill a post?


No don't say that : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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by sen-no-sen » 25/03/10, 15:46

GDP, growth and ecology, why does it hang?
simple answer: exponential growth = impossible!
zero growth = bad for GDP.
So ecology not good for GDP!
NB: do not confuse growth and development.

Moreover, noticed the expression "sustainable growth" (which tends to want to replace the expression "sustainable development") is of the same ilk as "quiet break" (of a certain gentleman), one more nonsense!

economy and ecology go hand in hand, as well as development and ecology which are inseparable.
Growth is the problem, many economists do not understand that everything is limited on earth and that growth is only a phase quickly reached.
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