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by Ahmed » 13/06/21, 12:31

Everyone talks about comfort as if it were obvious; material comfort dearly paid *, certainly, but very great discomfort of living in an asocial society and in perpetual open competition ...

* Fortunately (sic!), A good part of the bill is paid by those who do not benefit! : Oops:
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 13/06/21, 12:54

Ahmed wrote:... certainly, but very great discomfort to live in an asocial society and in perpetual open competition ...

And again, imagine the stress that the Americans are having who must "earn" not their living but their right to live in a society where the race for money is a permanent vital necessity because no (or so little) social cover as in Europe... :(
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by Ahmed » 13/06/21, 13:04

... and if it is, ours will end up being mimicked ... :frown:
More and more people are becoming useless in the reproduction of capital and, for the moment, "we" act as if it was a provisional state which will be resolved by the "creation" of jobs (a magic formula that transcends parties! ) and an economic development which however frees itself more and more from "variable capital" (labor, in Marxian terminology), sawing off the branch on which it is installed.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 13/06/21, 13:06

Ahmed wrote:... and if it is, ours will end up being mimicked ... :frown:

We see forces at work to, in effect, gradually suppress the public service. 40 years that it lasts.
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by Ahmed » 13/06/21, 13:11

Yeah, the poor are definitely too expensive ...: Wink:
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 13/06/21, 13:16

Ahmed wrote:Yeah, the poor are definitely too expensive ...: Wink:

For the old people, they found a solution ... : Wink:
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by sen-no-sen » 13/06/21, 13:24

eclectron wrote:As Janco said with his 2CV at 2l per cent for everyone, it is always that of gained on the dependence on fossils and on the emissions of CO2. Certainly we lose in POWER!
Again the ego that is not happy ... cruel disease that we have.


The question of the power of vehicles is not fundamentally to be related to the ego (even if this tendency can play in the last instance). We could very well carry out experiments on rats and show that the latter would probably follow the same trend *, ego or not.
In reality, it is the structure in which behaviors are deployed that will determine our relationships.
If so, it is the most energy-dissipating model that will be sought after. It is for this reason that the US has succeeded in imposing its own on much of the world.

* It works great with sugar or cocaine.
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by Ahmed » 13/06/21, 13:26

Guy: Easy! Old age lasts less than poverty anyway ...
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by Exnihiloest » 13/06/21, 18:31

sen-no-sen wrote:...
As a reminder, democracy is the power of the people ... the problem is that in our time and in our techno-industrial societies, the people have become an imaginary category ...

This is by no means the problem. The problem is the operational form in which the people could exercise their power.
The current form, its representation by deputies, clearly has shortcomings.
But if I see a lot of clichés on the main principles on which however everyone agrees, I do not see any proposal for an alternative in operational terms.
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by Exnihiloest » 13/06/21, 18:34

Ahmed wrote:Everyone talks about comfort as if it were obvious; material comfort dearly paid *, certainly, but very great discomfort of living in an asocial society and in perpetual open competition ...

False.
People who are too uncomfortable in their society emigrate.
I don't see French bobos emigrating en masse, nor anyone else.
Conclusion: Society is largely social and it is social enough for people to stay there.
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