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by sen-no-sen » 12/01/19, 20:42


Norway, the world's largest salmon producer, faces a plague that ravages its farms: two species of salmon lice, Lepeophtheirus salmonis and Caligus elongatus, cause serious and often fatal diseases in these fish.

These small crustaceans from 6 to 12 mm - which have little to do, despite their name, with those who attack our hair - cling to the fins and scales of their targets to feed on mucus on their skin . This interference causes many complications in salmon, to which the youngest often succumb because of their vulnerability, when the breeders are not directly forced to kill the fish to purify the basins. Aquaculture requires, the problem is reinforced by the proximity of many salmon in these basins fjords, this forced rapprochement favoring contamination.

Fortunately, some breeders are now using the invention of the Norwegian company Beck Engineering, which has developed a particularly effective underwater drone marketed by Stingray. His cameras allow him to spot the famous lice and eliminate them by projecting a laser that has the advantage of not injure the target salmon because its scales reflect the light.

https://www.numerama.com/tech/243334-en-norvege-un-drone-sous-marin-protege-les-saumons-de-poux-mortels.html


A laser device designed to rid salmon farms of sea lice parasitizing its last ... a fine example of technological outbidding at the service of mass production.
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by Janic » 13/01/19, 08:29

"the more we are crazy, the more we laugh" :? Another documentary showed seashells attaching themselves to unhealthy little turtles, not others. The "lice" in question would they be the signs of this poor health of farmed salmon that we do not see in wild salmon and therefore eat sick salmon, even free of their lice, (as we remove cancers on food animals to make them believe they are healthy) can they generate health in those who consume them? A great philosophical subject if there is one! 8)
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by sen-no-sen » 13/01/19, 17:19

Janic wrote:"the more we are crazy, the more we laugh" :? Another documentary showed seashells attaching themselves to unhealthy little turtles, not others. The "lice" in question would they be the signs of this poor health of farmed salmon that we do not see in wild salmon and therefore eat sick salmon, even free of their lice, (as we remove cancers on food animals to make them believe they are healthy) can they generate health in those who consume them? A great philosophical subject if there is one! 8)


This is clearly caused by the conditions of concentrating breeding, and such conditions are logically conducive to the development of pathologies of all kinds.
What is terrible to note is that faced with such problems, the only answer is technological and raises the issue of overbidding ...
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by izentrop » 06/03/19, 11:30

Hello,
Some people say 3 at 10 kg of vegetable protein is needed to produce 1 kg of meat, it does not take into account certain aspects such as vegetable proteins and by-products that can not be consumed by humans, as well as the return of excrement to the maintenance of soil fertility. the Scientific Interest Group (GIS) releases figures more related to reality
According to the GIS "Livestock Tomorrow", (consortium of 16 organisms including INRA, Idele ...) that works on livestock production systems with high economic, environmental and societal performances, monogastrics (conventional pigs, chickens standard meat, laying hens) produce between 0,7 and 1,6 kg of animal protein per kg of vegetable protein that can be consumed by man according to feeding methods. Dairy cattle farms produce 0,6 up to more than 2 kg of animal protein for 1 kg of vegetable protein consumable by man.
https://www.pleinchamp.com/elevage/actu ... e-vraiment
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15000 l / kg of meat produced, it is necessary to put into perspective
They come from the Waterfootprint method, which takes into account "blue water", which corresponds to watering, "gray water", which represents the consumption necessary to preserve its quality and finally "the water". green water ", ie rainwater absorbed and evaporated by fodder surfaces. This "green water" represents 94% of 15.000 l raised. Apart from this rainwater, it is 50 l of water that are actually needed to produce 1 kg of beef.
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by Janic » 07/03/19, 12:51

https://www.pleinchamp.com/elevage/actu ... e-really
I have the impression that it counts only the water consumed whereas it is necessary to count the whole chain which leads to produce a kg of meat, and the formulas used let to think that it is about farms industrial.
see:
https://www.viande.info/elevage-viande- ... -pollution
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by sen-no-sen » 02/06/19, 13:25

Meat consumption has re-increased in 2018 in France

While meat consumption has been stagnating or even declining for several years, and despite scientific warnings, it has gone up again in 2018 in France.

Goodbye calf, cow, pig? Not so sure. While studies and initiatives to drastically reduce our consumption of meat, very greedy resource, are increasing, it seems that the French are resisting and continue to garnish their plates of barbaque.

The annual consumption of meat per inhabitant has been recorded in France for a long time by the Ministry of Agriculture. The calculation is made taking into account the bones and non-edible parts of the animals, so-called "carcass equivalent" (kgec). In 1970, the 50,5 million inhabitants each bought on average 30,7 kg of pigs, 30 kilograms of cattle and calves, 12,1 kg of poultry and 3 kg of sheep or goats. That's a total of 75,8 kg of meat per person in one year.

https://www.liberation.fr/france/2019/04/04/la-consommation-de-viande-a-re-augmente-en-2018-en-france_1719314
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by Janic » 02/06/19, 15:30

The bidoche sector represents a large economic sector in France like picrate. After the scandals on the cattle / horse mixture that had shocked the populations, which quickly forget to return to their old loves. At the same time the bidoche sector against attack following other scandals slaughterhouses and the rise of vegans by making an ad on flexitarianism (they do not know much or not at all) highlighting a quality meat rather than quantitatively forgetting the Mercosur imports whose breeders see the dangers for their sector.
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by sen-no-sen » 02/06/19, 16:15

This increase is to be relativized in the sense that the consumption of meat is decreasing since the 90 years, it is probably here a simple fluctuation.
The same is true of unemployment figures, sometimes rising or falling, while the trend is stagnation.
For some years now, there has been a return, still timid, of traditional butcher's shops in response to industrial butchery. The latter still having good days in front of it, it is possible to explain its figures by a phase convergence between a slight rise in the butchery. and the stagnation of the industrial sector.

Now one thing seems quite clear: the drop in consumption of meat product has little to do with an awareness of the animal condition *.
The drop in consumption is partly related to the health crises (crazy cows type) and other scandals (Spanghero case), coupled with a decline in purchasing power.


* Despite an honorable score from the animalist party, which is part of the "climate marches" of a somewhat contradictory desire for emancipation with regard to sectorial trends and population practices ...
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by sicetaitsimple » 02/06/19, 17:10

sen-no-sen wrote:While meat consumption has been stagnating or even declining for several years, and despite scientific warnings, it has gone up again in 2018 in France.


The study itself is very bushy, but interesting:
https://www.franceagrimer.fr/Stockage-A ... tives-2019
Most of the increase is due to poultry, the rest varies very little.
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by Janic » 03/06/19, 12:53

Now one thing seems quite clear: the drop in consumption of meat product has little to do with an awareness of the animal condition *.
Directly: no! but Paris was not built in a day and so this trend is increasing as awareness of the AB.
The drop in consumption is partly related to the health crises (crazy cows type) and other scandals (Spanghero case), coupled with a decline in purchasing power.
At first, certainly! But L 214's videos shocked people and that will only be felt for decades with the steady increase of vegans among young people.

* Despite an honorable score from the animalist party, which is part of the "climate marches" of a somewhat contradictory desire for emancipation with regard to sectorial trends and population practices ...
Yes and no ! It is also a way of not putting a blank ballot or abstaining. The ecology of the Greens being rather shy on these aspects as on the vaccines.
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