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This news doesn't seem so recent http://www.mondialisation.ca/ampoule-et ... le/5336898
The scam must not have taken;)
This news doesn't seem so recent http://www.mondialisation.ca/ampoule-et ... le/5336898
The scam must not have taken;)
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The article that Izentrop proposes to read is very interesting.
Making electronics last is not that difficult: above all a question of design (dismantling), dimensioning of components, choice of components. And of course the big components are expensive.
Last year I changed an alarm center whose power supply failed after 31 years of 24-hour operation (more than 24 hours). In fact, I could have repaired it, but it was going to be faster (delay) to replace it and the customer wanted to benefit from certain improvements. I have detectors which have been stable since 270.000 (1986 hours) and I am a fan of "vintage" Hi Fi. Pre-245000 devices are easy to troubleshoot.
Everything is a question of cost, of course: it is obvious that on site, the choice is quickly made: faced with the price of a repair (travel costs, shipping costs, need for stability), we replace.
My father, a pioneer of fluorescent tubes at the end of the 40s, had placed some prototype tubes in the house for which they had given the order: "Madame Rolland, you would like to make me some with half an extra coil of filaments. ", to see. 50 years later, they were still going.
We must also put things into perspective: yes, my mother's Admiral 1952 fridge was still working in 2005, but it will have cost us the price of 2 others ...
And we sometimes have good surprises: I installed my first microprocessor control units (DSC) in 1989. Seeing them, I said to myself, ouuuuuh, it won't last as long as the Tecnoalarme, with its sumptuous construction. And, although they heat up as it is not allowed, many of them have exceeded 18 years of service. And I tell myself that every time I am shown a new model.
Making electronics last is not that difficult: above all a question of design (dismantling), dimensioning of components, choice of components. And of course the big components are expensive.
Last year I changed an alarm center whose power supply failed after 31 years of 24-hour operation (more than 24 hours). In fact, I could have repaired it, but it was going to be faster (delay) to replace it and the customer wanted to benefit from certain improvements. I have detectors which have been stable since 270.000 (1986 hours) and I am a fan of "vintage" Hi Fi. Pre-245000 devices are easy to troubleshoot.
Everything is a question of cost, of course: it is obvious that on site, the choice is quickly made: faced with the price of a repair (travel costs, shipping costs, need for stability), we replace.
My father, a pioneer of fluorescent tubes at the end of the 40s, had placed some prototype tubes in the house for which they had given the order: "Madame Rolland, you would like to make me some with half an extra coil of filaments. ", to see. 50 years later, they were still going.
We must also put things into perspective: yes, my mother's Admiral 1952 fridge was still working in 2005, but it will have cost us the price of 2 others ...
And we sometimes have good surprises: I installed my first microprocessor control units (DSC) in 1989. Seeing them, I said to myself, ouuuuuh, it won't last as long as the Tecnoalarme, with its sumptuous construction. And, although they heat up as it is not allowed, many of them have exceeded 18 years of service. And I tell myself that every time I am shown a new model.
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I agree with you, Elephant on the potential durability of electronics; I have a neighbor who tinkers with old TSF tube sets and similar amplifiers and it all works wonderfully despite a certain age (and with the help, of course, of some repairs). This remains valid for more modern electronics, insofar as the components are correctly dimensioned.
As for the article quoted at the beginning of the thread, I read the text carefully: it contains all the usual "nutty" marketing ingredients ... it's appalling.
As for the article quoted at the beginning of the thread, I read the text carefully: it contains all the usual "nutty" marketing ingredients ... it's appalling.
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Ahmed wrote:I agree with you, Elephant on the potential durability of electronics; I have a neighbor who tinkers with old TSF tube sets and similar amplifiers and it all works wonderfully despite a certain age (and with the help, of course, of some repairs). This remains valid for more modern electronics, insofar as the components are correctly dimensioned.
As for the article quoted at the beginning of the thread, I read the text carefully: it contains all the usual "nutty" marketing ingredients ... it's appalling.
the work is total Certainly the high energy cost with lamps that a Cmos
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Ahmed wrote:I agree with you, Elephant on the potential durability of electronics; I have a neighbor who tinkers with old TSF tube sets and similar amplifiers and it all works wonderfully despite a certain age (and with the help, of course, of some repairs). This remains valid for more modern electronics, insofar as the components are correctly dimensioned.
As for the article quoted at the beginning of the thread, I read the text carefully: it contains all the usual "nutty" marketing ingredients ... it's appalling.
the work is total Certainly the high energy cost with lamps that a Cmos
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the shadow wrote:
and I admit that I did not understand everything . If you wanted to "translate"?
the work is total Certainly the energy cost well high with lamps that a Cmos
and I admit that I did not understand everything . If you wanted to "translate"?
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To believe its new website http://www.iwop.es/iwop.php , Benito Muros' business is going well. He now guarantees his lamps for 10 years. It is not eternal but almost.
The best LEDs are guaranteed 50000 hours of operation with an efficiency of 100 lm / W
He is 100000 h and 214 lm / w http://www.iwop.es/productos.php
is it possible or is there a lie?
To believe its new website http://www.iwop.es/iwop.php , Benito Muros' business is going well. He now guarantees his lamps for 10 years. It is not eternal but almost.
The best LEDs are guaranteed 50000 hours of operation with an efficiency of 100 lm / W
He is 100000 h and 214 lm / w http://www.iwop.es/productos.php
is it possible or is there a lie?
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