I still think (but intuitively because no figures ...) that their balance "consumption of raw materials / life" is much better.Econology wrote:[...] On this subject, I asked myself the following question: these bags are reusable several times so a priori it is ecological ... only here: they are heavier (+ oil + transport) and especially they also wear out (I'm talking about E.Leclerc style bags which are not simply woven in thicker plastic) ... So at the end of the day I'm not sure that the results are very positive ... except for the supermarket which make a more certain margin! [...]
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Woodcutter wrote:I still think (but intuitively because no figures ...) that their balance "consumption of raw materials / life" is much better.
Better surely ... much better it is not certain ... (well it is subjective the notion of "good") ... should find a study above ... In any case it is certain that the impact "reusable" bags are not zero ... far from it and that the use of a real shopping bag in natural material is more economical!
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There is that:Econology wrote:[..] should find a study above ... In any case it is certain that the impact of "reusable" bags is not zero ... far from it and that the use of a real shopping bag natural matter is more eco-friendly!
http://www.carrefour.fr/pdf/rapport_car ... itique.pdf
but I haven't read it thoroughly ...
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Woodcutter wrote:There is that:
http://www.carrefour.fr/pdf/rapport_car ... itique.pdf
but I haven't read it thoroughly ...
Waaw Respect! It's fast service ... there is no kneeling smiley otherwise you would have been entitled to it
Good this report has its place on the site
ps: after quick reading, a comparative tablo indicates a maximum of 20 shopping bags use ...
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And that too:
http://www.cniid.org/prodpropre/note_synthese_ademe.doc
who talks about the PwC study, cited above.
http://www.cniid.org/prodpropre/note_synthese_ademe.doc
who talks about the PwC study, cited above.
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And after a similarly quick reading, they are better than the "disposables" for all the criteria studied after approximately 5 reuse ...Econology wrote:[..] ps: after quick reading, a comparative tablo indicates a maximum of 20 shopping bags ...
In fact, a reusable "natural" would be the foot ... (we do not reinvent a little wicker basket, there?)
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Woodcutter wrote:they are better than "disposables" for all the criteria studied after approximately 5 reuse ...
Yes after a quick calculation and according to the same table the disposable = 3800 g per year and the shopping bag = 800g ... but 800 g is far from being 0.
Finally the biggest winners in the business are the supermarket since it no longer gives but sell these bags (what is not given is therefore sold with a margin where a double gain)
Woodcutter wrote:In fact, a reusable "natural" would be the foot ... (we do not reinvent a little wicker basket, there?)
Well, this is what Rulian and I mentioned above, right?
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