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[Hasardine]

Eric 72,

Either we haven't seen the exact same story, or you embroider and try to make him say what he doesn't say!

Excuse me, but the report does not say what to do, and especially not the woodcock which causes in the end, they say what exists, and the woodcock in question also uses led bulbs (I know it well! LOL !) but that was not the subject of the report!

Little reminder, on the packaging of the bulbs in question, there is a small logo specifying that they should not be thrown in the trash (recycling mandatory).

one more note, one day I dropped one of these bulbs on the ground and they did not break in the sense of letting the liquid escape, it no longer worked and that's it.

Finally, there are currently in the big DIY chains, in the light bulbs department, vast campaigns concerning the recycling of these so-called light bulbs !!! Everything comes to those who wait.

as regards the economic side of the compact fluorescent bulbs and since you seem gifted in calculation, do not you think that 3 hours in incandecence 100W = 300W; against 3 hours in fluorescent of 21W = 63W represents a considerable saving? Or at least a non-waste!

[eric72]

Small question to remove the doubt: Do you have actions in compact fluorescent bulbs?

Just to remind you of the subject of the report: low-energy light bulbs

The report in question only dealt with compact fluorescent light bulbs called in this report "low consumption light bulb" "green light bulb" (I'm kidding). Indeed the fluo are a category of low consumption bulb but there are others such as LEDs for example, but that we have not heard or little heard about while abroad (USA Japan) they are widely installed and preferred to CFLs.

So excuse me for "embroidering tents" but for me, not talking about all the products that make up a market while we are making a subject on this market and its issues in the context of the replacement of incandescent bulbs (therefore a great informative role see incentive for the consumer), in a report intended for the general public it is a kind of propaganda. We only talk about fluorescent bulbs so the consumer has no choice so in a certain sense we orient their choice since they will have to make one soon with the disappearance of incandescents.

Regarding your logo unfortunately it does not prevent people from throwing light bulbs in the wild finally I think ... :-) Even if awareness campaigns are an advancement I prefer to put a clean product on the market rather than relying on the approximate reflexes of the consumer with dangerous products like fluo.

Finally don't make me say what I didn't say !! fluorescent bulbs are very good since they consume less than incandescent (always more than LED bulbs but good ...)! the problem is that there is better !!! without mercury !!! without electromagnetic waves !!! without recycling problem !!!!

In fact tell me if I'm wrong but you defend the fluorescent bulbs despite all that and you do not endorse the LED bulbs by what we can not look at when they are on (like all the bulbs) while they beat Fluorescent bulbs on all points (apart from the price I concede).

No seriously you work at Philips ;-)

Gone, I think I said everything!

[Hasardine]

I see that we have an eminent specialist on the human question, congratulations.

I have nothing to add on this post.

[Woodcutter]

[...] We are telling people, notably through reports like that of M6, that the only way to replace incandescent bulbs is to buy compact fluorescent bulbs (which we call moreover falsely "low consumption bulb") while there are other low consumption bulbs less harmful to the environment and more effective. [...]

Why "falsely"? Are not fluo at low consumption?

For the fact that they are "the only ones", it is necessary to make the difference between "general public" (= the average televiewer of M6 ...) and informed people who nosy on the forums...
Currently, there is no "general public" offer (= buyable in supermarkets) which is both efficient and inexpensive for LEDs, while for CFs, yes.

Regarding the% recycling, where do these figures come from? From Recylum?

[Christophe]

In terms of pure efficiency, the LEDs are approximately 2 times superior to compact fluorescent lamps, themselves 5 times superior to conventional bulbs. The LEDs are therefore 10 times (5 * 2) higher on the efficiency of incandescent bulbs.

See: https://www.econologie.com/forums/test-compa ... t6649.html



But their relative directivity (for 90% of LED bulbs on the market) requires that we put for the living rooms, more light points! The LED bulbs are therefore reserved for the moment, for directional spot type lighting!

https://www.econologie.com/shop/ampoules-led-c-90

For the current leds, we can therefore honestly speak of a gain of 50% compared to fluorescent but not more ... and about 7 times compared to conventional bulbs.

[eric72]

to answer your lumberjack questions!

I said "falsely" because even if, you are right, they are energy saving bulbs, it is not said that they are an anti-ecological product.

http://www.paperblog.fr/1005676/des-ond ... nnie-lobe/

http://www.santepublique-editions.fr/indexb.html (watch the video on low consumption bulbs it is instructive)

here for my sources!

Otherwise you are right there are no correct models of LED bulbs in supermarkets and it is a shame. But to have looked into the question I can tell you that it will not be long because in the United States and Japan the latest generation bulbs (not produced by French firms; this is why we are late and we talk about it not yet in M6 reports are more readily available.
You can find these models on the site where I bought mine.

NO SPAM !!!!

Francis

Have you already tested these models because I think the performance is even higher than that of the Luxeons that I also have at home.

[eric72]

Sorry I don't know why I called you François but I was speaking to you Christophe in the second part of my mess

dsl

[tonioconso]

Hello everybody

Eric72, your links are cold in the back !!!
I hallucinate to see that the French authorities do nothing to ban these compact fluorescent bulbs !!!
It is a scandal !!!
To believe that Philips and Osram are the rain and the good weather with the government to be able to market everything and anything in terms of lighting!
And we are made to believe that it is for the good of the planet ... we are really taken for c ... s! I will circulate the video over the air to all my contacts to fight this new scandal! Do like me ! send this link to everyone: SPAM

I had seen a report on France TV on these new high power leds econergyworld.
Can you tell us Eric72 if it really replaces all the bulbs and if it works really well (intensity, lighting, heat, lighting)?
I'm interested ...

[Hasardine]

And you Eric 72 you work for BIIIIIP?

Edit by Christophe: hey yes, it looks like ...

[Christophe]

People who think and say that fluorescent bulbs emit harmful EM waves are only POOR CONS who better return to school instead of relaying salads without personal checks (TF1 and FR2 included)! Or they could do the measurements themselves, personally I did and here are the results: https://www.econologie.com/ondes-magneti ... -3832.html

Don't get the wrong target and don't be fooled by some LOBBIES !! If there is a problem with EM waves it is surely not in fluorescent bulbs or neon lights ...

AND PLEASE READ THIS: Compact fluorescent lamps source of electromagnetic fields

Edit by Christophe: all this is intoxication because the clever little ones who laid this "scoop" (thank you journalists for relaying the intoxication) have forgot to know that the dangerousness of a field in V / m was related to its frequency! But the frequency of GSM is much higher (2.5 Ghz) than those of fluorescent bulbs (50Hz or 100Hz). To know more: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/electr_e ... rec519.pdf or mirror link: https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... AxM93H.pdf

OTHERWISE IT IS CLEAR: ANY COMMERCIAL LINK IN A FIRST POST WILL NOW BE DELETED WITHOUT CONDITION !!!

Instead of spamming, you just have to copy and paste the article!