2019 resolution: (try to) do not buy anything new! Boycott of the new?

[Exnihiloest]

If nothing new is bought, what do you see as a replacement activity for the millions of players in the production sector?

This seemingly mundane question * is quite extraordinary if we examine it in the long term: indeed, except under capitalism (whether private or state) it would have aroused the Surprising because of the low regard for work and the evidence that it was opportune and easy to live with or with as little as possible ... What would have appeared as excellent news is perceived §U like a catastrophe under capitalism.
Slavery, which was an ancient solution, is not the cause of this disdain, but its consequence. The first English industrial revolution consisted in transforming the winter and additional weaving work of the peasants into intensive and controlled work (passage of the domestic system au factory system, therefore avoid the usual self-limitation of work to the strict necessary ...
The machines have not proven to be substitute slaves due to the reversal of roles ...

Do we not also risk stagnating societies ...

It is a vision very IXX century, which attributes a scale of value between the different cultures with that of the anthropologist as stallion!

* In addition, the very movement of technical innovation inexorably destroys work, which is an internal contradiction ...

Amusing how questions that are nevertheless very practical, roughly "what are people going to do, how will they live, what will be their intellectual demands", have their answers completely drowned in a historical-nebulo-economic school discourse. There was no question of catastrophe, "activity" did not have a special meaning of "work", but all this is diverted and handled to allow this discourse to lay down moral judgments, without of course providing any operational response. .

If we can think that it is nihilism which is currently at work against our industrial societies, this speech is a fine illustration of it. We learn that if we should "not buy anything new", on the other hand we have no idea of ​​a palliative society. There is no idea. We stop for certain reasons without imagining the consequences, and "after me the flood".

[Ahmed]

To follow up on my last sentence above and the message from Sen-no-sen, it appears that, for cultural reasons, it is in Japan that humanoid robots or not, but intended to interact with humans, develop best ...

It is quite strange in itself to ask the question of an activity "palliative" to economic activity; yet it was this kind of questioning to which JM Keynes at the end of his life, because he could not imagine (curious lack of imagination) what men, supposedly freed from the burden of work, could do with their lives!
And if the desire takes to stop it is not for certain reasons, but well to avoid the disastrous consequences of an unlimited consumption and which generates (fortunately for it!) A lot of frustrations (B.Arnault said they regretted not being able to earn more money * ...)

* Even if the quotation is apocryphal, it is a proven fact that the richest people believe that it can never be enough ...

[Exnihiloest]

In a world of overproduction and abundance (and this is our world) the argument of Exnihiloest is completely bogus !! Too many new products are produced and consumed ...

"a world of overproduction and abundance", yep! It's cool . Buyers have the choice to buy or not, new or not, buyers decide, it's a shame for Christophe, he doesn't decide for them what would be "too many new products".

But we can change society, for example banning free trade and setting up a network of Soviet-style shops, with nothing in it except the products stamped by the committee of public safety.

The problem is, people continue to demand "more purchasing power" today, and some don't seem to have guessed it yet, is to buy what they want.
The idea that we would consume very good of new products is not a fact but a simple opinion which is not necessarily shared. The only question is to make new products that we consume more cleanly.

[Exnihiloest]

It is quite strange in itself to ask the question of an activity "palliative" to economic activity;

Very strange to ask the question of what people will spend the free time on?
If they stay in bed, don't hesitate to say so.

[Ahmed]

This is a question that has never been asked of all those who, throughout history, were not required to work, either because of their privileged position, or because their society does not even know what concept and therefore not its reality ... I am allowed to imagine that there are many activities much more pleasant than contributing needily throughout the year to increase social inequalities (which, be it said between parentheses, explain that some would like to consume more, while others, less pressed by necessity opt for another behavior).

[Exnihiloest]

"there are many activities much more pleasant than ..."

But we will not know which ones, we will not know their nature, we will not know if they would require production, we will not know if they would bring conviviality in the society, we will not know what they would require as means ... on the other hand we will know once again that these activities will be "much more pleasant" (on the basis of what and judged by whom?) than all these current nasty activities which would increase social inequalities. More ideological and more vain as a discourse, I do not see.

[Ahmed]

Perhaps lack of imagination on your part?
To pretend that all these nasty current activities would not increase social inequalities is still downright ideological ...

[sen-no-sen]

There is no need to embark on a "boycott of new" since the current trend naturally tends towards the reconditioning of used equipment in order to guarantee them a second life. This is particularly the case with smartphones, and this is growing. also in ready-to-wear (thrift stores are becoming trendy again).
In a world in economic contraction such measures arise by themselves independently of all ideologies.
No need to be a medium to imagine that in the future many products, new or used will be bought via collectives.
For example with the development of ultra-light electric racing cars (VAE and other scooters) the purchase of a car will become more and more superfluous. Logically will therefore come the tendency to buy several cars and to pool the purchase and maintenance.

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Promo free purchase ...

https://www.pearl.fr/article/GR150/mont ... n%C2%B0404

Well, I bought, except scam I only had the port to pay ...

[Ahmed]

But it's new! Not good!