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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by Obamot » 31/07/21, 16:03

Mega-list of all demonstrations with regularly updated links:

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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by Grelinette » 31/07/21, 17:13

Given everything that is happening now, between the economic, social, political, judicial, republican, health, panic, mistrust, corruption crisis (another minister - that of SMEs - involved in a scandal ... without forgetting Sarkozy and Dati indicted, etc.) and other deeper crises still to be identified, we cannot qualify the French as sheep or ostriches!

At worst, we can think that the people are a people of Whiskers ... but rebellious Moutruches, and that changes everything!

Because the sheep give the impression of stupidly following the movement like a flock of sheep, with their heads in the ground, but as soon as there is panic or rebellion, the sheep panic, protest, revolt, and anything can happen. explode.

All joking aside, the generalized multi-crisis (s) situation is so complex and fragile that it is difficult to predict how things will turn out in the coming months.

This complex situation in my opinion exceeds the faculties of human intelligence to take into consideration all the parameters that interfere in this mess, especially since this mess is nevertheless made even more opaque by disinformation, phony polls, lobbies. , networks, lies, complex arrangements, iniquitous and villainous laws, secrets and other manipulations of which we (the population) are the object.

The only conclusion to be drawn at a minimum is that all this does not bode well for the future of humanity and means that nothing can be foreseen, even in the short term.

Perhaps an Artificial Intelligence, a cold intelligence that analyzes anthropogenic facts without belief or emotion, while "self-educating" by integrating each new fact, can possibly anticipate future events without manipulative interference.

In short, Macron is the shepherd of a flock of rebellious and unpredictable sheep who live in a troubled and tense environment! ...
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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by Obamot » 31/07/21, 17:27

Cold shower (or not) by an artificial intelligence “bot”, it's going to blow up ... right? : Cheesy:

People are already fed up with having to use automatic answering machines, with the fact that strangers make important decisions for them, without them being able to express their disagreement or refuse their fate. ... neither protest nor rectify ... Already this crisis comes from there, from EBM and from “big-data” (remembering the Surgisphere scandal), here is the final hypothesis,

... but the rest of your analysis, I like it a lot!
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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by Grelinette » 31/07/21, 17:39

Obamot wrote:Cold shower (or not) by an artificial intelligence “bot”, it's going to blow up ... right? : Cheesy:

People are already fed up with having to use automatic answering machines, with the fact that strangers make decisions of importance to them, without them being able to either express their disagreement or refuse their fate. Already that this crisis comes from there, from the EBM and from the “big-data” (to remember the scandal of Surgisphere) that is for the final hypothesis, but the rest of your analysis, I like it a lot!

That's right, I forgot the role of corrupt and evil Bots!

Above all, people are fed up with having to deal with leaders, powerful and above-ground administrations who impose unlivable living conditions on them with no way out.

"Big-Data" is only a powerful tool currently in the hands of malicious profiteers: it is like this expression "A razor left in the hands of a monkey".

Obamot wrote:... but the rest of your analysis, I like it a lot!

Thank you! :?
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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by Obamot » 31/07/21, 17:44

Even monkeys are less sheepish than some humans, y'know?

The demonstrations will come to an end, soon the first reports of the day ...
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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by Obamot » 02/08/21, 23:26

Well, bein, Putin has dropped the Russian “sanitary pass” (hardly applicable ...)

The Institut Pasteur recognized that Ivermectin was an option ...

And at Sud Radio, the show of the day makes us understand that the demonstrations will evolve in scope and duration:



So Macron's fate will be played out in his ability and possible wisdom to step back ...!

HERE the survey:

"Are the protests gone to last?"

I'll let you vote and find out the (provisional) result ...: (wow)

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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by humus » 03/08/21, 09:34

Obamot wrote:Anger is brewing in the street!

Since the advent of the Fifth Republic, it is one of the governments whose fate is very uncertain. How do you see the rest?

In Poitier, the Town Hall was stormed, the portrait of President Macron was taken down, then trampled ...

Meanwhile, in the courtyard, the people were shouting loud and clear:

- “Revolution!”
- “Revolution!”
- “Revolution!”

Then his portrait was then torn up and thrown to the people through the upstairs window ...


These facts have symbolic significance!

But where is France going, where are we going, what will happen to Pdt Macron?

My worst scenario: the protesters will not go to vote and / or will remain divided.
Marcron is reassuring for the old people who vote, reassuring for the 'good guys', who vote, them and all this together will constitute a "majority" in the face of abstention and in the face of the divided.
The majority of the population will be vaccinated, the pass will not be a problem for them, the refractories will be bad citizens singled out, the mass of the refractories will not be large enough to overthrow him, force will be used to channel the few refractories , which will reassure the old people and the 'good guys' who vote.
Land of custodians!
he will be re-elected.

What I want: the emergence of a multipolar, united and constructive front, having integrated the necessities of ecology.
Unfortunately, this does not necessarily go through the environmentalist parties in place which seem to me far from responding to the problems of resources, given that growth is always the order of the day, even green ...
except maybe Delphine Batho with her decrease, to be confirmed.
Macron could serve as a catalyst for the unification of the protesters.
We could say thank you, finally : Mrgreen:
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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by Christophe » 03/08/21, 10:00

Obamot wrote:HERE the survey:

"Are the protests gone to last?"

I'll let you vote and find out the (provisional) result ...: (wow)



Hey, they didn't have time to bribe this one? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

computer-electronic-electricity / fraud-and-manipulation-of-political-opinion-on-twitter-and-social-networks-t16937.html

On Radio must be less coped than political opponents ... : Cheesy:

Otherwise all is well in the land of human rights, which is rather becoming the land of upright men! : Mrgreen:
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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by humus » 03/08/21, 10:01

Obamot wrote:Even monkeys are less sheepish than some humans, y'know?

Fear as a stick, security, servile tranquility as a carrot, this is what the mustard works.
No wave ... it's exactly the same philosophy in business.
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Re: What future for Macron and why?




by gildas » 03/08/21, 11:37

The ideal scenario : Oops:

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