They killed Notre Dame de Paris!

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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by Leo Maximus » 27/04/19, 11:43

Did67 wrote:The framework of Notre-Dame is perfectly documented in the Historic Monuments.

If it is perfectly documented we should know if the arrow was oak or pine already. Ditto for the batten on which the lead cover was fixed. Viollet le Duc was well aware of the problem of the chemical reaction between oak and lead and he would have coated the oak batten with a layer of minium, unless he had used ... pine batten. "Techniques of ancient architecture" by Yves-Marie Froidevaux ( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves-Marie_Froidevaux ).

Anyway, the battens burned very well ...

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In addition to the batten, there was "kindling" under the cover, was the floor of the aisles oak or fir? In recent photos, the guardrails are apparently made of fir rafters, some of them are new ... And was there a stock of rafters somewhere?
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source: http://www.notredamedeparis.fr

Here is a photo taken by Le Républicain Lorrain during the recent restoration of the Metz cathedral. We see bastaings in fir used on the site (a priori, it is not prohibited):
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But, well ... See you in June for the descent of the rooster : Lol: :

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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by Leo Maximus » 27/04/19, 12:08

Another photo of the site http://www.notredamedeparis.fr :

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We see the floors (oak or fir?) And the railings in fir (in my opinion ...) and electric lighting! Provisional or not, I thought it was prohibited.

How many m3 of small wood under the roof of NDP?
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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by Christophe » 03/05/19, 22:31

Good reasons for not especially not rebuild Notre Dame identically !!

Green roof, beehive, greenhouse ... These ecological projects to rebuild Notre-Dame de Paris

What if Notre-Dame became the symbol of ecological transition? Several architects and Internet users have presented sketches of a greener cathedral, ranging from an urban greenhouse to a metamorphosed spire into a beehive, including the installation of solar tiles. The projects are more or less realistic, but all testify to the desire to make the cathedral a symbol of the climate emergency.

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https://www.novethic.fr/actualite/envir ... 47207.html
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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by Ahmed » 03/05/19, 22:46

Shake symbols rather than change reality, that is perfectly in tune with the entertainment society ...
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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by izentrop » 04/05/19, 08:57

Christophe wrote:Good reasons for not especially not rebuild Notre Dame identically !!
Green roof, beehive, greenhouse ... These ecological projects to rebuild Notre-Dame de Paris
https://www.novethic.fr/actualite/envir ... 47207.html
I like the ecological side, there is a carbon deficit to make up for. The glass roof and green roof project adds to the tourist vocation of ND. We could also cover windows without tint, for a color seen from the outside more in harmony with the places.

On the other hand, something other than beehives which are a plague for biodiversity ... rather a biodiversity refuge like nest boxes for swifts, jackdaws and other birds, but well thought out to avoid drifts.
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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by Ahmed » 04/05/19, 10:00

... one way ...
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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by gegyx » 04/05/19, 10:30

No kidding !

This seems to completely distort the building.

The bells will be transferred to the whole Eiffel?

The call to prayer will be at the top, via loudspeaker and converted muezzin?

The staff (crazy money), for cleaning the windows outside, the maintenance of the garden inside, the access elevators, and if it is open to visitors, external emergency stairs ( to European standard)?

Why not innovate and build this kind of structure on the Elysée?

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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by Christophe » 04/05/19, 11:14

Ahmed wrote:Shake symbols rather than change reality, that is perfectly in tune with the entertainment society ...


Certainly, but isn't that how "everything" began and has lasted for centuries? I am obviously talking about Catholicism and its variants ...
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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by Christophe » 04/05/19, 11:18

izentrop wrote:I like the ecological side, there is a carbon deficit to make up for. The glass roof and green roof project adds to the tourist vocation of ND. We could also cover windows without tint, for a color seen from the outside more in harmony with the places.


Except that in the state: show a greenhouse to tourists all year round, the air conditioning bill may be salty, very salty ... conversely that of heating in winter also ...

At least partial PV solar coverage and coupled with reversible air conditioning could be considered ... And this would obviously make it the largest PV park in intramural Paris.

France could FINALLY show the example rated ENR ... even if this example would only be symbolic!

ps: I am a little surprised by the speed of presentation of these projects, they were in the boxes before the fire ???
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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by Christophe » 04/05/19, 11:19

gegyx wrote:Why not innovate and build this kind of structure on the Elysée?

: roll:


Maybe because he hasn't (again) burned! : Mrgreen:
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