They killed Notre Dame de Paris!

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Re: They killed Notre Dame de Paris!




by Christophe » 14/04/23, 19:53

I don't care about the commentary, it was for the video...what a fool! (not you, him!)
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Re: They killed Notre Dame de Paris!




by Christophe » 18/04/23, 09:39

No nothing…



Those who have already managed to light a log with a cigarette butt (without accelerating) raise their hands!! : Cheesy:
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by Remundo » 18/04/23, 10:05

ah we do not cross the "burning" stage of reasoning / deduction...

This fire is unlikely to be a natural phenomenon... the speed at which the fire spread was incredible and difficult to explain in the absence of prior "organization".

ah yes but it's conspiratorial, you don't think about it...
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Re: They killed Notre Dame de Paris!




by Janic » 20/04/23, 10:01

Those who have already managed to light a log with a cigarette butt (without accelerating) raise their hands!!
no need! these are the dust accumulated on the ground, plus the dry grass brought by the birds for nesting and other miscellaneous contributions.
The self-ignition observed in wheat silos and barns in very dry weather is sufficient.
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Re: They killed Notre Dame de Paris!




by izentrop » 20/04/23, 12:32

Yeah boo! We know 99% that its origin is accidental, a badly extinguished butt, a spark, dry wood, oxidizer, you want some, a start of fire that smolders for hours, without us noticing it

Once triggered, all the elements of the "fire triangle" were there and nothing could really stop it, given the height and the fact that we wanted to save as much as possible, more effective techniques could not be attempted...
In the case of Notre-Dame, managing the disaster was extremely complex. If President Trump suggested the use of canadairs, which would have been effective in extinguishing the fire, the consequence would have been the destruction of the treasures or even the building. The Paris firefighters had to work with caution, for themselves and for the heritage. Thus, certain areas of the cathedral, too hot to involve men, were reached thanks to the Colossus robot...
https://theconversation.com/notre-dame- ... %20chaleur.
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Re: They killed Notre Dame de Paris!




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 20/04/23, 12:55

izentrop wrote:Yeah boo!

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combustio ... e_physique

But slow combustion with pyrolysis cannot be ruled out. Far from it.
This chemical phenomenon, well known to firefighters, architects-engineers and industry, occurs in a confined environment, in the absence of oxygen. However, the wooden supports of the statues were wrapped in sheets of lead. When cutting the heads of the twelve apostles with a torch, it is likely that tin from the solders ran onto the very dry wood of the bases. One can also wonder about the work of dismantling. The slow degradation of wood at low temperatures ranging from 300 to 800°C can take several days. It is difficult to detect. As this same wooden post was no longer protected by lead inside the attic, the combustion could then have become intense in the presence of air.

This “hot spot” hypothesis, although it has not been mentioned so far, remains the most probable. Some heritage architects have come to this same conclusion. The cathedral of Beauvais, at the end of the 1990s, had also experienced a fire outbreak as well, detected the day after welding work with a torch. In construction, the risks remain high and require great vigilance. It is therefore essential to know the origin of the fire of Notre-Dame de Paris. We will have to learn from this and bring together practitioners, architects, firefighters and companies to put in place new preventive protocols.
https://www.marianne.net/culture/notre- ... isemblable
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Re: They killed Notre Dame de Paris!




by Christophe » 20/04/23, 13:07

izentrop wrote:Yeah boo! We know 99% that ..blablabla...


: Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Your 99% certainty (how did you count the 99 percent? Can you explain to us?), is it the same scale as the 94% vaccine?
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Re: They killed Notre Dame de Paris!




by Christophe » 20/04/23, 13:10

Christophe wrote:No nothing…



Those who have already managed to light a log with a cigarette butt (without accelerating) raise their hands!! : Cheesy:


Didn't quite understand the answer at 2:00 ... there was a cut in the editing?
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 20/04/23, 13:11

Christophe wrote:(how did you count the 99 percent? Can you explain?)

With his fingers? : Mrgreen: : Oops:
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Re: They killed Notre Dame de Paris!




by Christophe » 20/04/23, 13:13

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:
izentrop wrote:Yeah boo!

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combustio ... e_physique

But slow combustion with pyrolysis cannot be ruled out. Far from it.
This chemical phenomenon, well known to firefighters, architects-engineers and industry, occurs in a confined environment, in the absence of oxygen. However, the wooden supports of the statues were wrapped in sheets of lead. When cutting the heads of the twelve apostles with a torch, it is likely that tin from the solders ran onto the very dry wood of the bases. One can also wonder about the work of dismantling. The slow degradation of wood at low temperatures ranging from 300 to 800°C can take several days. It is difficult to detect. As this same wooden post was no longer protected by lead inside the attic, the combustion could then have become intense in the presence of air.

This “hot spot” hypothesis, although it has not been mentioned so far, remains the most probable. Some heritage architects have come to this same conclusion. The cathedral of Beauvais, at the end of the 1990s, had also experienced a fire outbreak as well, detected the day after welding work with a torch. In construction, the risks remain high and require great vigilance. It is therefore essential to know the origin of the fire of Notre-Dame de Paris. We will have to learn from this and bring together practitioners, architects, firefighters and companies to put in place new preventive protocols.
https://www.marianne.net/culture/notre- ... isemblable


Ah, here we are, we are told that slow combustion (and why not spontaneous combustion...it's in the Bible!), explains the fires in churches which have multiplied in recent years...

The hatred of our culture, the Islamization and Africanization of France have nothing to do with it! : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:

Well then !!
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