They killed Notre Dame de Paris!

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Re: They killed Notre Dame!




by Macro » 20/04/20, 17:58

Christophe wrote:
And then if the lead had only melted: [b] where are the 450 tonnes of lead cast in the rubble? 450 tonnes we should see them right? How big is that? :D


About 40m3 ...
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by Did67 » 20/04/20, 17:59

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We may not have 1755 ° C in a frame fire (though ??) ...


A small point of reflection, which I omitted:

Are you aware, I think, that the "blue" flame of a well-tuned gas lamp is around 1 ° C? It was blazing, but it was still not a blue flame, difficult to obtain with a solid material such as wood (even very dry) ...
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by Christophe » 20/04/20, 18:20

Did67 wrote:In short, it does not seem "automatically obvious" to me that any the lead has evaporated. Without denying that part of it has been (never "flip" just a sentence - that doesn't make sense!). But I am no expert in metals. Not being competent, I would leave it there. It was just a passing remark.


I never claimed that 100% of the lead had vanished!

I simply said that to pretend that there was ONLY 150 kg on the 460 T or 0,150 / 460 = 0.03% was a lot of foutage of mouth !!

In short, where did the 40 m3 go (- 0.03% : Cheesy: ) molten lead? : Cheesy:

Or if you prefer in kg 460 - 000 = 150 kg to be found melted all over the place : Cheesy:
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by Christophe » 20/04/20, 18:34

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Christophe wrote:
We may not have 1755 ° C in a frame fire (though ??) ...


A small point of reflection, which I omitted:

Are you aware, I think, that the "blue" flame of a well-tuned gas lamp is around 1 ° C? It was blazing, but it was still not a blue flame, difficult to obtain with a solid material such as wood (even very dry) ...


1700 ° C it seems a lot for sure but it is certainly possible to exceed 1000-1200 ° C with a wood fire with a chimney effect !!

How have blacksmiths worked for centuries? Ok this is not the melting point of steel but they are not very far (1400 ° C) ...

So while we are in high temperatures, they explain to me how you can make fire old beams by accident? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by Did67 » 20/04/20, 18:40

An answer in the text you quoted:

"The square still closed to the public
They also confirm the initial hypothesis according to which the most significant fallout of lead took place in the area of ​​800 meters around the cathedral - not modeled by Ineris -, by projections during collapses for example, and not by smoke. "

Thus the rates found on the forecourt, still closed to the public, are always high, with measures at 30 or even 000 µg / m40, said the regional director of ARS, Aurélien Rousseau.

[NB: in the study area, these rates are: "In Yvelines and Hauts-de-Seine, no measurement exceeded 300 micrograms per square meter (µg / m2) ...



You quote hunters, but you forget that motorists have dumped tons and tons of lead on the edges of roads / highways, and that the major part is still there [some, today, squat these spaces to install there. .. vegetable gardens !!!]
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by Did67 » 20/04/20, 18:46

Christophe wrote:So while we are in high temperatures, they explain to me how you can make fire old beams by accident? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:


You absolutely need a "conspiracy" ???? The KGB maybe ... Oh yes, Putin seems like a good lead. He wants to put an Orthodox temple instead !!! Here ! Maybe Al Quaïda, to put a mosque ??? Or the Mosad, to build a synagogue ???

How?

- an idiot on the building site who smokes in a corner and swings his butt (you have already done construction sites, and observed with what care the workers do not care about the rules posted everywhere)

- improperly connected cable ...
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by Christophe » 20/04/20, 18:50

Did67 wrote:You quote hunters, but you forget that motorists have dumped tons and tons of lead on the edges of roads / highways, and that the major part is still there [some, today, squat these spaces to install there. .. vegetable gardens !!!]


One pollution never erased another ... : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

There is just more serious pollution than others ...
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by Christophe » 20/04/20, 18:56

Did67 wrote:You absolutely need a "conspiracy" ???? The KGB maybe ... Oh yes, Putin seems like a good lead. He wants to put an Orthodox temple instead !!! Here ! Maybe Al Quaïda, to put a mosque ??? Or the Mosad, to build a synagogue ???


" : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: "= irony eh !! We are not yet going to add a layer to the ambient malaise of coconut !!

Did you watch the BMFTV report of the day?
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by Did67 » 20/04/20, 19:00

Christophe wrote:
One pollution never erased another ... : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

There is just more serious pollution than others ...


You name the hunters - it's "green" to target them!

But motorists, a little easy to zap.

It was just to complete. Not to "erase" ... Nor to minimize.
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by Christophe » 20/04/20, 19:05

Didier, it's been all the same since 1992 that gasoline is no longer leaded eh ... To quote this in comparison seems to me a little "has been" ....

I don't know how much lead it was in the air and how it re-deposited ...

I imagine it was more diluted than the shot of the hunters!
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