The Bluff on France 2. disposable society!

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by Leo Maximus » 25/02/10, 09:25

Ssangyong is Korean, created in 1954 but was bought by the Chinese industrial group SAIC:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ssangyong
http://www.ssangyong.fr/pages/accueil.html

Ssangyong has been imported into France for quite a few years. Ssangyong Musso we see especially in the south of France where they roll the bottom. : Shock:

Now that Ssangyong is under Chinese control it can grow or disappear quickly. In the 80s and 90s, the Chinese bought half of the Japanese photo / video / Hi-Fi brands. They disappeared in a few years.
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by Leo Maximus » 25/02/10, 09:58

About the Chinese automobile there is this link:

http://www.lesvoitureschinoises.com/Accueil.html
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by Christophe » 25/02/10, 18:50

Hey, I didn't know it was in Special Envoy!

The video of the report is available here in stream: http://envoye-special.france2.fr/index- ... ticle=2060
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by Ahmed » 25/02/10, 21:10

For the sake of objectivity, I must recognize that there is indeed a category of devices that are massively of high quality: those that are used to produce junk!
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by Christophe » 25/02/10, 23:28

: Cheesy:

Not sure that they are of such high quality ... they are simply in large quantities ...

On the other hand, the capacities of human imagination in the field of junk are impressive!
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by Ahmed » 26/02/10, 22:22

The relationship between a manufacturer of industrial machines and a user / buyer is not asymmetrical as is that between a merchant and a lamda consumer.

The industrial user generally has many elements of judgment to make his choice according to precise criteria. On the other hand he knows his production objectives, which means that the part of subjectivity is really minimal.

Insufficient quality means lower profitability if we consider the machine's proper function and a loss for the company if we consider that stopping it will temporarily immobilize part or all of the machine. process.

This is why I doubt that the addition of a fluorescent paint can compensate for weaknesses in design or manufacturing!
This is also why, in order to preserve its margins, the manufacturer has an interest in promoting the quality of its products: an initial additional cost is very acceptable for an industrialist who is sure of finding his way quickly.
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by recyclinage » 26/02/10, 22:44

disposable society what does throw

it would be a pleasure for me to be able to place this interjection in the middle of this boiling which turns in rotation

please excuse me in my proverbial tone for such a serious subject of the language of an animal snake

of if in the counter dream mold world to get high

is it my fault?

god forbid no

I am only a line an ineffable bug which certainly does not want to drop the microphone to the zombie zozo which if this continues will find this at the end of this word.

the candor of a butterfly we the poor are millions

what do you want me to fix i just do art
I have neither money nor money because I am only a pay

if I am wrong
my shoes and pump badly weary an eye you could take a look

your my friend I give you a flower
because you are afraid of your weaknesses

don't forget what you have under your feet
and take your legs to your neck

you wouldn't fix anything because you broke everything
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by Christophe » 17/06/10, 19:23

I drummed 2 excerpts from the Special Envoy report to see here:
https://www.econologie.com/fiabilite-de- ... -4286.html

Abuse of guarantees:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbY9HuXz9EY

The consumerist strategies of the manufacturers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdhX_kcBaFc
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by Christophe » 21/06/10, 15:58

This weend, I asked my grandmother if she remembered how long had lasted their very first refrigerator.

Answer: more than 30 years, several moves and especially 1 cave flood.

It was a bosch bought in the early 1950 years.
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by Ahmed » 23/06/10, 22:00

This means that use value (utility) constantly decreases in favor (that's the word!) Of exchange value; in other words, the use value, without disappearing completely *, must be as small as possible, to leave room for what is the finality of the economic act: "to make" money.
This also makes me think that the distinction between the virtual and real economy is absolutely irrelevant ...

* the use value is "parasitic" of the economic finality, however it cannot be totally eliminated (but it can nevertheless be reduced to a symbolic dimension) because for a commodity to reach its goal, it must be sold.
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