Gaps in National Education programs and limits of new narcissistic educational methods

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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by Christophe » 18/03/19, 14:36

Christophe wrote:(I did not understand everything to the message of the legend but the 2 photos are nice : Cheesy:)


I think I understood the message a little better: (public) education includes sociability? So that (parental) education is more individual (and not only children?)?
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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by thibr » 18/03/19, 19:53

Did67 wrote:... And the result is:

https://www.persee.fr/doc/estat_0336-14 ... 207_1_5173

Unfortunately, this base disappeared with the end of compulsory conscription! And so we can't say that for the last 20 or 30 years anymore (I can't remember when it was deleted; in the 95s ???).

[Edit: PS: I say "unfortunately" for science! Not for conscripts or for nostalgia for war ...]

and again it did not take into account the girls ...
for the unfortunately that is discussed ... instilling a little civic sense before entering the workforce does not necessarily hurt : Mrgreen:
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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by Did67 » 19/03/19, 08:54

thibr wrote:for the unfortunately that is discussed ... instilling a little civic sense before entering the workforce does not necessarily hurt : Mrgreen:


Yes...

Let's say:

a) I hope there are other, more fun, less military means: sport, etc.

b) that the fact of associating it, at the time, with a clearly military activity was, in my view, too high a price to pay!
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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by Exnihiloest » 19/03/19, 12:21

Christophe wrote:What it lacks basic programs (until the end of the college) for Education?

I see at least 3 things "cold":

a) administration of justice (I have never seen, never studied I have no idea of ​​the functioning of the courts)
b) basic care (patent relief 1er)
c) consumption (learn how to eat and buy, anti scams ...)
d) the operation of the country (role of the senate of parliament, a town hall ...)
...

These points are skull fillings. Education is used to provide points of reference but especially the methods to think right. So obviously mastery of language and logic take precedence. If there are certainly things to learn, and the points you cite could be part of them, they should not be treated at the expense of learning the methods, and the programs are already well loaded.
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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by Christophe » 22/03/19, 19:55

Cpafo!

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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by sen-no-sen » 22/03/19, 20:46

Christophe wrote:
What it lacks basic programs (until the end of the college) for Education?

I see at least 3 things "cold":

a) administration of justice (I have never seen, never studied I have no idea of ​​the functioning of the courts)
b) basic care (patent relief 1er)
c) consumption (learn how to eat and buy, anti scams ...)
d) the operation of the country (role of the senate of parliament, a town hall ...)
...


This has already been the case for points a, b and d for at least 15 years, but it is generally overflown due to the overload of programs.
We should learn basic survivalist things like making a fire, purifying water, helping in a hostile environment, building a makeshift shelter, navigating with the stars and learning to recognize plants and fungi.
Such a course, possible as part of a nature internship could very well complement the SVT courses.
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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by thibr » 23/03/19, 10:49

... We should learn survivalist rudiments like making a fire, purifying water, helping in hostile environments, building a makeshift shelter, heading with the stars and learning to recognize plants and mushrooms ...
you just have to go to the scouts for that, right? : Mrgreen:
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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by to be chafoin » 23/03/19, 13:19

Courses on the history of the climate and on knowledge on current global warming, the collapse of animal populations, soil degradation ... and on the solutions envisaged here and there. Finally, debates on possible decisions.
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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by A.D. 44 » 24/03/19, 05:11

Hello,

Well then ! Poor kids !!!

They already have ultra-busy days and weeks (between the number of subjects to finish n, and the senseless accumulation of homework ...).

You want to make machines to learn and to swallow without stopping and without pause?
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Re: The deficiencies of the programs of the National Education




by Bardal » 24/03/19, 05:49

And let us not forget either the courses on sexist and racial discrimination, education for "citizenship, local life, the elderly, ecology and small birds, respect for parents, terrorism, circadian rhythms, sexual and sentimental education ...

It is quite curious, with each slightly hot topical subject, we turn to school, which never has more than 24 hours a week to swallow it all. The paradox is that the means of transmitting knowledge, skills and attitudes have never been so numerous and accessible outside of school; why are parents, grandparents, brothers and sisters, friends not using them to hold their place as educators too? Would they be too busy on forums Internet ?

Or would we consider that social life must be segmented, sausage-fed, the various functions of raising children being strictly distributed between each category of specialists. Here is a company that would make me cold in the back…
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