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by Christophe » 13/05/20, 01:51

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GuyGadebois wrote:France ready to test at the (almost) end of the epidemic, that makes you laugh!
We are still far from it my good Guy https://www.futura-sciences.com/sante/a ... mai-80654/
“For collective immunity to be sufficient to avoid a second wave, 70% of people with immunity would be needed. We are far below, ”explains AFP the main author of the study published by the Pasteur Institute, Simon Cauchemez. According to these studies, in fact, only 5,7% of the population will have been affected by the coronavirus by May 11


Stop dreaming with your collective walnut immunity: you should already be sure that covid19 is immunizing ... and when we see that in less than 6 months we have already found 15 different strains... the specialists who sell us the dream of collective immunity, just as much as the vaccine, are quacks !!!

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by izentrop » 13/05/20, 09:36

Christophe wrote:Stop dreaming with your collective walnut immunity: you should already be sure that covid19 is immunizing ... and when we see that in less than 6 months we have already found 15 different strains... the specialists who sell us the dream of collective immunity, just as much as the vaccine, are quacks !!!

Fortunately I am not a specialist : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
Precisely, it is the specialists who must be listened to and not only the Asterix Marseillais. Specialists do not say 15 strains but 15 minor changes like all single-celled organisms. It's not the flu or HIV
For researchers, a minor mutation (the most frequent) does not slow down the search for treatment. Several laboratories are currently testing antivirals to treat the coronavirus: "Unlike chronic infections like HIV which require a combination of drugs, viruses with acute infection like SARS-CoV-2 require only one molecule, but we still have to find it, ”says Etienne Simon-Loriere. http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/corona ... 274408.php
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by gegyx » 13/05/20, 10:21

izentrop wrote:Precisely, it is the specialists who must be listened to and not only the Asterix Marseillais. Specialists do not say 15 strains but 15 minor changes like all single-celled organisms.

The useless blah of scientific scholars, or the tongue-in-cheek of politicians and induced fake news.
Why is it so important to name a finding differently, if not to show its "culture", but useless in terms of practical results to find a solution and remedy it? / Doctor Knock ...

To translate in fact "particularities of the virus" by "minor evolutions", is a lie as for the effects of the various evolutions ...

The virus in China was the least virulent, in Italy and Spain, much more deadly, it was terrible in a Nordic country but quickly circumscribed ... etc ...

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by Christophe » 13/05/20, 11:17

izentrop wrote:Specialists do not say 15 strains but 15 minor changes like all single-celled organisms. It's not the flu or HIV


If I remember my (old) bio lessons, a minor evolution is enough to make a vaccine obsolete ... which is effective on a single RNA ...

No ?

If there are 15 strains in 6 months ... how many will there be after 12 or 18 months? : Shock:
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by Christophe » 13/05/20, 11:21

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The virus in China was the least virulent, in Italy and Spain, much more deadly, it was terrible in a Nordic country but quickly circumscribed ... etc ...


+1 ... flat: the Spanish dean has just made it ... at 113 years old ...

There would be a genetic part that it would not surprise me! We have known for a while that blood groups count ... it's not genetics?
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by GuyGadebois » 13/05/20, 12:28


Still warmed up. Your article dates from March 6. We're not there anymore!
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by GuyGadebois » 13/05/20, 13:00

Nearly 200 mutations in the new coronavirus have already been recorded since the start of the epidemic. Despite this impressive figure, these would be minor on the structure of the virus. However, recent research brings new elements: the dangerousness of these mutations would be variable. Indeed, if most of them have no influence on the very function of the virus, Chinese researchers have shown that certain mutations lead to strains up to 270 times more virulent than others. This would explain why from one region to another, the incidence of the epidemic is not the same.

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by gegyx » 13/05/20, 13:28

- I give my feeling as it stands on the situation.

The effects observed seem to be found everywhere in our body, from the toes to the brain.
There are many studies on this virus with multiple behaviors, and disparate effects. Let's say extraordinary.
This will become clear in the months that follow (if we could, avoid the false leads of the lobbyists who caused a hell of a delay in the various searches).

The states seeming completely outdated, are trying to save their levels, and what is possible in the field of economics.
Optionally, they abuse power and laws to maintain their authorities.
So, somehow, it will waver, for lack of a solution.

Few people have been infected so far, but it will continue and spread in the coming months, surely.
With recrudescences of the virus, according to the seasons promiscuity, and then the variants of the virus ... Like a dye, it will spread.
The weakest are and will be in pain, it is a fact.
But it will be necessary to live thus, it is a foreseeable fact.

People will understand that in the absence of miracle drugs or vaccines, it would be a plus (preferable) to live healthier, to take care of yourself and your loved ones, while keeping a more serene approach to the meaning of life.

To fight against all evils and adversities, the surest way is to introspect, and to hear what our senses, our body whisper us.
I think the best protection to strengthen our bodies is to get closer to nature, the only spark of life.

To avoid diseases? Strengthen our immune systems, absolutely unstoppable, and able to react more precisely, and even where we know nothing about it ...
It will not stuff itself with vitamins or other enzymes at all costs, on already tired bodies.
We have to detoxify ourselves, detoxify ourselves. Cleanse our organs so that they regain an ability to function, to defend the body as a whole.

There are many possible natural paths. It's up to you to look for the sense that you are subduing, and which speaks to you.
It will be good.
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by Christophe » 13/05/20, 15:43

GuyGadebois wrote:
Nearly 200 mutations in the new coronavirus have already been recorded since the start of the epidemic. Despite this impressive figure, these would be minor on the structure of the virus. However, recent research brings new elements: the dangerousness of these mutations would be variable. Indeed, if most of them have no influence on the very function of the virus, Chinese researchers have shown that certain mutations lead to strains up to 270 times more virulent than others. This would explain why from one region to another, the incidence of the epidemic is not the same.

https://www.ladepeche.fr/2020/05/12/les ... 883873.php


Well it's a bit HS ... to repost in the fight against coconut?

200 mutations they say ... : Shock: : Shock: : Shock:

I was still only on 15 ... : Cheesy:

So 200 types of vaccine will be needed ... same for collective immunity?

We are bad and surrounded by clampins ... : Shock:
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by Christophe » 13/05/20, 15:48

gegyx wrote:.
We have to detoxify ourselves, detoxify ourselves. Cleanse our organs so that they regain an ability to function, to defend the body as a whole.


The remark of detoxification is also valid for our ways of life and thinking: the goal of many people's lives is always more consumption and / or accumulation of personal wealth ...
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