LREM and Macron: the dictatorship of the macronists

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LREM and Macron: the dictatorship of the macronists




by Exnihiloest » 21/11/20, 15:08

France is not today a rule of law. Not only are dictatorial and arbitrary decrees imposed from above, such as restricting travel due to COVID when only contacts are to be restricted, but the entire hierarchical line down to the bottom of the ladder, the verbalizers on the ground , believe they are also obliged to exercise their little discretionary power by misinterpreting regulations to bully citizens, as we see here:

https://www.marianne.net/societe/police ... de-jogging

Your certificate indicates that you went out to play sports, but you do not have the look of a sportsman, so you are cheating, therefore PV. The least stooge of the power in place interprets the law as it sees fit, without ever being reproached for this kind of behavior and even less sanctioned.

Democracy has reached its limits. I think we don't need the policies anymore. These people have neither the competence to manage the country nor the vocation to do so in the interest of the citizens. They only want to exercise their power against the people, to shape them, to infantilize them with iniquitous decrees, to molest them by their henchmen, to satisfy their egos as guardians.
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Re: The dictatorship on the march




by sicetaitsimple » 21/11/20, 15:19

A little nap, maybe?
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by moinsdewatt » 21/11/20, 15:29

: roll:

Since the start of this second confinement I have not undergone any control, have not seen any firsthand. No relative has been checked.

I don't even fill out a certificate.

Should not be abused by throwing such a thread.
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by Exnihiloest » 21/11/20, 16:02

moinsdewatt wrote:: roll:

Since the start of this second confinement I have not undergone any control, have not seen any firsthand. No relative has been checked.

I don't even fill out a certificate.

Should not be abused by throwing such a thread.

Would a particular case be proof that we are not under a dictatorship?
In a forest near my home alone, 9 verbalizations were made against mushroom researchers on the 1st day of confinement, while even outside the COVID period, we hardly meet anyone and we meet several meters away on the rare occasions when it happens. No sanitary reason justifies the ban on walking in the forest, and even less when we know that hunters have been authorized, especially for big game so in a group activity!

During the first month of the first confinement, there were 760 verbalizations.
The first fifteen days of the second confinement, there were 100 verbalizations.
The state has therefore recovered more than 116 million euros on the backs of the people.

We can therefore see that I am not "abusing" and that your particular case counts for butter.
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by Christophe » 21/11/20, 16:12

No one complained about the previous dictatorship much more devious and destructive, both for man and the environment ... the dictatorship of consumerism ...

Those who argue about a current dictatorship are marioles who have never experienced a real one ... reread Didier's testimony about his father ... a fate shared by hundreds of thousands of others ...

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by Exnihiloest » 21/11/20, 16:30

Christophe wrote:No one complained about the previous dictatorship much more devious and destructive, both for man and the environment ... the dictatorship of consumerism ...
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It is not for a simple reason: the police are not used to force you to consume. Advertising, we give you the freedom to resist it if you want. Consumption, unlike the mask or traveling, is if you want.
It has nothing to do.

The fact that you are recalling Nazism, and therefore much worse, to pass the pill, on the contrary says a lot about the current situation.

For resources against the Covidian dictatorship, just to use the relicate of justice before it ends evaporating:
http://lesaf.org/ressources/
see the "Ticket challenge kit during a health emergency"
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Re: The dictatorship on the march




by Janic » 21/11/20, 17:33

During the first month of the first confinement, there were 760 verbalizations.
The first fifteen days of the second confinement, there were 100 verbalizations.
we must pay the ticketers!

The dictatorship on the march
• We rarely agree, but yes, on the substance, not on the same subject, hence some minor retouching

France is not today a rule of law. Not only are dictatorial and arbitrary decrees imposed from above, (like imposing 11 vaccines,) but the entire hierarchical line down to the bottom of the ladder, the verbalizers in the field, believe they are obliged to exercise them -also their little discretionary power by wrongly interpreting the regulations to bully citizens.
(as a reminder the refusal of vaccination incurred 25 francs in almonds and 000 months in prison) the sanction is no longer applied for the moment!
but 135 euros against 6 months of imprisonment, we are far from it!

The slightest stooge of the power in place interprets the law as it sees fit, without ever this kind of behavior being reproached to him and even less sanctioned.
Democracy has reached its limits. I think we don't need the policies anymore. These people have neither the competence to manage the country nor the vocation to do so in the interest of the citizens. They only want to exercise their power against the people, to shape them, to infantilize them with iniquitous decrees, to molest them by their henchmen, to satisfy their egos as guardians..


Well done, amen, hallelujah! And yes, some laws are unfair, but everyone does not see the same!
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by sen-no-sen » 21/11/20, 17:38

If there is indeed a dictatorship, it is indeed that of incompetence that we should talk about, a dictatorship of incompetence linked to the lack of anticipation of our society in the face of systemic crises, however obvious.
What is tasty is that such a remark emanates from a person who comes to deny most of the ecosystem problems to come ... yet, faced with this, this "Covidian" episode will appear as a non-event. .
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by Exnihiloest » 22/11/20, 17:37

sen-no-sen wrote:If there is indeed a dictatorship, it is indeed that of incompetence that we should talk about, a dictatorship of incompetence linked to the lack of anticipation of our society in the face of systemic crises, however obvious.

You want to introduce incompetence in this thread but incompetence is not a dictatorship. Just mixing up just any concept wouldn't make sense. A dictatorship starts from a conscious desire to exercise power, which one does not have with incompetence.

What is tasty is that such a remark emanates from a person who comes to deny most of the ecosystem problems to come ... yet, faced with this, this "Covidian" episode will appear as a non-event. .
argumentum ad personam => trash can

This "Covidian" episode is on the contrary extremely revealing, revealing of the attitude of the gobblers who, because they were told that the only solution was to deprive them of their freedom for a higher cause, appealed to this dictatorship and s 'crush when they pay the price.
There are solutions other than confinement, and above all than confinement as practiced, that is to say infantilization.
But why the eco (no) logists, such as Christophe we saw above, tell us that ultimately there is no reason to complain about this confinement, we should "relativize" because it was much worse at the time of Nazism. Certainly. But should we be satisfied with a soft dictatorship because there are hard ones? For them the answer is "yes".

And here's why: ecological ideology can only be imposed in this way and its most virulent activists know it well and even do not always hide it. Since society would not willingly accept the measures they advocate, then they must be imposed by force. In the name of a pollution that they claim genocidal limit, in the name of a climate that they predict apocalyptic, in the name of the future generations of which they claim the monopoly, the people should accept all their demands.
The Covidian episode is exactly what would happen with ecofascism. The safeguard of the planet, which is however far from risking all the catastrophes announced and of which the method to do it is certainly not limited to their only ideas, will be pretext the superior reason for which people will be deprived of freedoms. Reduction of travel by car or plane, ban on the purchase of exotic or off-season foods, limitation of the renewal of electronic equipment, ban of an immeasurable number of products (for example from palm oil to plastics) ...

So I see the Covidian episode as superbly instructive on how to manipulate people into giving up their freedoms on their own and losing all that has been gained from hard struggles on this front since the end of the last war until May 68.
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by Exnihiloest » 22/11/20, 18:01

Janic wrote:
During the first month of the first confinement, there were 760 verbalizations.
The first fifteen days of the second confinement, there were 100 verbalizations.
we must pay the ticketers!
...


Certainly. And I am revising upwards the small quick assessment made above: we are today at 1,2 million verbalizations since the 1st confinement. The State has earned 162 million euros on our back (enough to equip dozens of large municipal wards with beds and breathing means to relieve the hospitals).
In Germany, no ausweis necessary to go out, and fine possible but only if "the safety rules are not respected" (non respect of a 1,5 meter spacing in public, being more than two, non respect of quarantine...). There it makes sense, unlike what Macron gave us. We are far from the verbalization of walkers in the forest.
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