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defeat strategy: understanding the past for the future?




by Christophe » 02/12/11, 14:30

Video conference document on the defeat of France in 40 ... I just flew over but it seems interesting to me to understand the manipulations that a people can undergo ... in particular the choice of voluntary defeat by the ruling classes (under pressure, of course, interest ...) ...

We can find (or not according to his convictions and his morality) some correspondence with the news is not it?

To put in parallel in parallel (balance?) With the shock strategy and see also people manipulation strategies

See here: https://www.econologie.com/strategie-de- ... -4388.html

The strategy of defeat. by worldhistoria

The defeat of France, declared Marc Bloch in April 1944, was prepared at length by five leading groups: "soldiers, politicians like Laval, journalists like Brinon, businessmen like those of Le Creusot, henchmen like agitators of the 6 February [1934] ".

Was the great historian a follower of the "conspiracy theory"? Or is it a plot of these five groups, carefully prepared, which brought down the republic by organizing the debacle? "The day will come, and perhaps soon", had also announced Marc Bloch, "when it will be possible to shed light on the intrigues carried out in our country from 1933 to 1939 in favor of the Rome-Berlin Axis in order to deliver to it the domination of Europe by destroying with our own hands the whole edifice of our alliances and our friendships".

Why do French citizens, as a whole, still know nothing of these old "intrigues"? The archives, now widely open, allow to take stock, both on the "strategy of the defeat" of the ruling classes in the systemic crisis of capitalism of the 1930 years, as on the silence that buried it after the Liberation.
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by Janic » 02/12/11, 15:14

a biblical reference that will please, there is no doubt: "all that is has already been and will still be; There's nothing new under the sun" The qoheleth.
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by Christophe » 02/12/11, 15:18

Janic, look at it before doing Bible references : Idea:

I'm at 45: 00 and I was not wrong, if it's a bit long about the details, this video is amazing!

From 45: 00 precisely, it starts to talk ... of debts ...

Video embedded in the site: https://www.econologie.com/strategie-de- ... -4388.html
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by dedeleco » 02/12/11, 15:37

The right of the time wanted dictators like Franco, Mussolini, Hitler, and so she was plotting for this strong power !!!
France had escaped the fashion of the dictator at the time, grazing shortly before 1940!

The result was so horrible that she fired creed !!
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by Christophe » 02/12/11, 16:44

Not only the right ... explained in detail during the conference ...

Look here, you will not lose your time ... but you can lose your cool against! :| :|

Ayé it's seen! What a logore! Bravo! Almost a monologue during 1h30!

To see, even if some details and names will necessarily escape the historians that we are not ...
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by Ahmed » 03/12/11, 19:26

Dedeleco writing:
The result was so horrible that she fired creed !!

No, she was discredited as a result of the German defeat.
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by dedeleco » 03/12/11, 20:06

No, she was discredited as a result of the German defeat

but there is still a right now!!
so this current right has turned its credo!!!
adopting left-wing rules in the past!!
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by Ahmed » 03/12/11, 20:38

The extreme right and the hard right who took power following the debacle of 1940 (Petain was then ambassador to his friend franc) were not at all "horrified by the results" 'except by those, earlier, of the popular front!).
Discredited by the debacle, then the purification they are temporarily relegated to the background of the political scene.
The time was no longer for dictatorships ...

The extreme right remade timidly surface under the impetus of Tixier-Vignancourt ten years after the events.

A Gaullist paternalistic-moralistic right occupies the ground while the lieutenants gnaw their brakes waiting for their turn. They will gradually roll the left which will gradually lose its influence along with its ideals.

True, scientific reality!!
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by Christophe » 05/12/11, 12:27

Little reminder, bankers made inflation and Weimar crisis and 1929 debt: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmrddd ... 12-11_news

So, they are directly responsible for the consequences of the 29 crisis.

(do not trust the title too much ... it's not a conspiracy or a bistro speech)
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by Ahmed » 08/12/11, 22:22

The opinion expressed in this video, on the precise point to which you refer, seems to me a little expeditious in its construction.

After the war, Germany saw the excessive weight of reparation for war damage imposed on it: what France imposed was totally unrealistic and related only to a psychological feeling of the intensity of the suffering endured .

The relief plans, American aid (not necessarily disinterested!) Allowed a precarious recovery: the American crisis led to that of Germany.

Here is the summary context, which everyone knows. We are not currently in an inflationary situation, it is rather the opposite (and it is not much better) ...
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