Pension reform

[Janic]

25/03/23, 16:05

— “One in three retirees “for” the reform”
Is that a majority?

those retirees, out of three, in question who benefited greatly (like me) from retirement at age 60; but who do not want to see their retirement reduced precisely with the current system. Basically: pay longer so that we get more and too bad if you die of exhaustion, it will make us even more money in the pocket (for the better off of course!) The height of selfishness!

[Obamot]

A comment the prouks? In your world of care bears where everything is impeccable...? A definition of "democracy"?

obviously not.

But with this minority hard core, and all the perversion of institutions that Macronescu fomented with his henchmen, here are the convulsions of a country that is going mad from above and below.

It's crazy! The night the day… The fire in the dustbins… The tone changed, there's hatred, even intense at the demonstrators. We feel in some, all their frustrations (legitimate deprivation) that emerges.
The clamor of the crowd no longer has anything to do with the peaceful demonstrations during the Covid. Not even with the Yellow Vests, it's something else.

People have understood that after the retirements, the whole social system will jump with abuse from 49.3...
There is clearly no more opposition, no more democracy. We see determined people who are ready to fight. It smells of insurrection (we are not far from it) abroad we are already talking about civil war.

There is an imbroglio, a set of things in the background, which are connected to the crisis. It's not just retirements... it serves as a trigger:
— the yellow vests movement has been around for years;
— years that many people can no longer turn at the end of the month they have no more money and have to borrow.
— prices have actually been rising for years since the introduction of the euro.
— there is disapproval of France's involvement in the war in Ukraine:
— there is the fact that with NATO and Ukraine nothing is going as planned!
— Macron continues to be zealous and to involve France.
— there are the backlashes of this Ukrainian crisis which has caused an energy crisis (already latent) people taking to the streets, things are taking on out-of-control proportions, with the domino effect of the endemic economic crisis, prices will probably increase by 10 to 20% or more.
— there are all the compromises during the covid crisis with conflicts of interest, which reflect an entire system that does not stop at the health crisis.
— the government is therefore faced with a vicious circle, a circle which itself initiated and fueled it.
— there is the fed up with the abusive use of 49-3!
— there are therefore also political compromises between the various political parties and the regime... LFI has a very heavy responsibility, since they have been careful not to depose the government "peacefully" (and on several occasions), in full compromise . Let Mélenchon close it, he is compromised.
— because added to the debt and all that inflation will aggravate the problem. And we left for years there...
— in the demonstrations people express their dissatisfaction with a system that is out of breath, following the covid crisis of the quasi-vaccination obligation, confinement, all that has accumulated and will increase the fed up.
— we are therefore in a crisis that is simultaneously: economic, societal, political, systemic, European and even global! With health threats with the arrival of new viruses, suspicion of shenanigans around pseudo-vaccines, and even military threats which are in the background. It's too much. This is a modest incomplete picture of why people take to the streets.

[Janic]

LFI has a very heavy responsibility, since they were careful not to depose the government "peacefully" (and on several occasions), in full compromise. Let Mélenchon close it, he is compromised.

[Obamot]

Didn't you see what NDA revealed?
Look it's heavy.
This was around the time of the previous missed 'no confidence motion' opportunity

[gegyx]

With the accentuation of the repression on the demonstrations in the cities. Excess of grenades of all kinds, return of the LBD, the brav-m which had to be reinforced by lowering the necessary Qi and the source for hiring (Azov?), traps, blockages, non-stop abusive retentions, with acts of sexual abuse, just that (lots of complaints). Lots of reports to beef carrots

The male assurance of Darmanain ready to receive King Charles, while an hour later it was adjourned.

The event of the basins, with 1500 ultra demonstrators, planned in the middle of the countryside (in a hole). 3500 police personnel to counter. (and even German personnel coming in reinforcement with European exchanges). 4500 grenades swung, at first against the wind…
In front of the people equipped this time, to answer. camouflage, gloves, mortars, shields, molotov cocktails, police vans set on fire, many wounded, who became serious because the police were delaying relief work… Work for the courts for another 2 years

I think that with the uses of the right to incompetence dear to Macron, the Minister of the Interior is ready for a significant reward.

Soon to be Prime Minister? ? ?

[Remundo]

this country is desolate.

Otherwise according to this small report, Alexis Kohler, a europeanist homebody close to the Public Ray, would have told Macronescu's Q the need for the pivotal age at 64.

[reinoso]

here is a review of the reform:

[gegyx]

Although the European Council has made “recommendations” to France on pension reform, they are not binding and are defined after discussion with the member countries. However, they are clearly encouraged to “take into account” these recommendations, in a more general logic of reducing public expenditure.

https://www.publicsenat.fr/article/poli ... ope-235674

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Heard this morning on Fr.Info:
"the European Commission, will impose sanctions if the pension reform is ruled out in France"

Do the commissioners really want to end up lynched?

[Remundo]

supranational incompetents never elected, traitors to their country, who roll their eyes with "sanctions"

this is what the European Union has become.

Incidentally, the commissioning body is located behind the scenes of this reform, which well-informed people already knew.

[Christophe]

You surprise me !!!

For Olivier Véran, the government awaits with "serenity" the decision of the Constitutional Council on the pension reform