Pension reform

[Remundo]

it is difficult to settle the debate.

for decades some have tried it, no one has ever found the right position of the cursor.

[Janic]

15/03/23, 09:01
remondo

it is difficult to settle the debate.
for decades some have tried it, no one has ever found the right position of the cursor.

because there is no right position whatsoever.
Those who argue about the fate of others (the poorest) are just the richest, with big incomes and who, hypocritically, save for their old age because they can and so much the worse for those, the most numerous, who can't.
Otherwise, they know that: later people will be likely to receive a pension the less they will receive it because they will have died before (economic measure) and if they are not yet dead they will have become loyal clients of unemployment, but surtout elderly care services. Clearly we fill a box by emptying the others, by the system of communicating vessels.

[Remundo]

when I was talking about the slider, it was more about choosing the degree of nuisance of a strike.

For example, the right-wing liberal has household waste immediately removed by private services. The strikers lose their working day without any progress in their demands.

At the other extreme, the anarco-leftist will go so far as to sabotage installations, or even attack those who are still working.

Where to put the cursor?

Otherwise there, you again evoke the class struggle in the debate. It is an element of reflection, but not the only one.

[Petrus]

If we are entitled:

The garbage collectors show us their social usefulness and the scrapings that could disappear tomorrow without negative effects for society want to teach them lessons...

[Christophe]

Well spoken Petrus!

[Remundo]

Bock-Coté's argument is far from stupid.

I am thinking in particular of the health risks.

But in fact, you have 2 clashing excesses:
1) macronist madness, drunk on power and manipulation against France and the French, VS
2) a radical trade union reaction, which pushes the nuisance of strikes to levels that clearly raise questions.

And I believe that we are not at the end of the nuisances, wherever they come from!

[Janic]

15/03/23, 13:19

I am thinking in particular of the health risks.

health risks are almost non-existent in our time.
The rare health risks are due to the refusal of some to sort their organic waste, which is the only one that could pose a problem. It is therefore a question of personal discipline rather than indifference, even contempt towards those who collect and sort their "shit".

[gegyx]

A little plan? On a standard rat trap to help the population against the increase in meat prices?

Not too big, to prevent a politician from getting trapped in it.

[Christophe]

Bock-Coté's argument is far from stupid.

I am thinking in particular of the health risks.

(...)

I don't agree: the health risk we've been in since 2020, so we know how to live with it!

This will give them a foothold in Paris (and other city dwellers) and will make some people reconsider certain socially and humanely devalued professions, as Petrus said!

In addition and as a bonus, it may open our eyes to our way of ultra consuming, and therefore of ultra producing waste!
Besides, if there wasn't so much wasted food in these garbage cans, there's no reason for the rats to look there!

My 200L trash can I put it out to pick up every 3 to 4 months and there is never any food in it (ok I compost and I only live at 1.5...)

[Christophe]

No nothing…