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Re: Patent the living




by Exnihiloest » 08/03/20, 18:21

grald wrote:Exnihiloest I don't know you but you seem to me to be a beautiful beast, besides the fact that you take me for an idiot which I appreciate moderately on the part of guy like you, you have the art of confusing the cards and bias the subjects. I hope you are well rewarded for your defense of your poor multinational. No need to discuss with rhetoric specialists (manipe?) And as you did not answer my sf questions with generalist banalities made in wiki, it would be nice to forget me and go elsewhere.


I don't know what's wrong with you. I did not take you for an idiot seen that I did not even look who had launched this thread, because for my part I do not discuss people but only the subject posted. You throw a thread, I answer it, it's the principle of forum and public threads.

If you do not accept the objections, if you do not understand the answers because I nevertheless answered your question "Are there any legal tricks" (yes, the patentability criteria not respected which make it possible to break a patent, and it is common), and that you see it as "muddling the waters and skewing the subjects", it is your problem not mine. It would be nice to try to read more carefully and try to understand.
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by Exnihiloest » 08/03/20, 18:45

Everything we eat today is the result of human manipulation of plants for thousands of years. Crosses, cuttings, selections of all kinds have allowed everyone to eat their fill today. You just have to see the difference between wild strawberries and market garden strawberries to understand the difference, which is significant.
To pretend as some assert without nuance here, that all that would be the fruit of the invention would be disgusting, it is obviously misinformation or stupidity. If I have not bought Spanish industrial strawberries for years, no taste, on the other hand the market gardeners in my area provide many very tasty species and with varied tastes, and these strawberries did not come out of the ground by spontaneous generation, it is the result of long human work.

The fact that today we have more efficient techniques to accelerate the evolution of plants presents of course the risk that we will make them evolve on criteria of profitability more than taste or nutritional interest. Possible but not systematic. I am convinced that I am not the only one to no longer buy tasteless Spanish strawberries, so supplying fruits and vegetables of little interest also has consequences for suppliers, and they will no longer be able to supply them to the same price to find buyers. It is not because quality is of course the interest of all but at a price, that we must condemn what is mediocre but also much cheaper. There are only people here who have not understood that not everyone can afford their ideal fruits and vegetables and that plant handling techniques can also reduce production costs, and even improve their quality ?!
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Re: Patent the living




by Exnihiloest » 08/03/20, 19:53

Ahmed wrote:At least with regard to French patents, an area I know well, the 3 criteria for obtaining a patent are purely theoretical. At the end of the examination of a patent filing, a set of comments is made by those responsible for it. However, even in the event of one of these criteria being refuted, generally the lack of inventiveness, the applicant can go further and obtain his patent. It is on this observation that I was led to cancel a patent which was wrongly opposed to me and which made me win my case ...
On the other hand, it must be understood that a patent, consistent or not, requires means to defend it and that there is therefore a criterion of financial power which comes into play. One of the consequences which results from this is, for example, the tactical filing of blocking or intimidation patents by sufficiently powerful groups, in order to maintain their dominance.


I subscribe. The offices are often inconspicuous. It is not even rare to find perpetual movements, and even flying saucers.
As for the second point that you underline, it is indeed a lamentable practice which tends to spread. Any system must always be hijacked by crooks, in this case those companies which buy patents without having any intention of exploiting the invention, but only to make financial speculation on their portfolio. Hanging high and short for this kind of parasite would seem good to restore.
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by GuyGadebois » 08/03/20, 19:55

Exnihiloest wrote:I don't know what's wrong with you.

Just a very legitimate detestation of the abject and false statements with which you drink this forum permanently. I told you it shows ... : Mrgreen:
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Re: Patent the living




by Ahmed » 08/03/20, 20:53

You write:
... it is indeed a lamentable practice which tends to spread. Any system must always be hijacked by crooks ...

The system is in no way diverted, except in the theoretical form that it takes for self-justification purposes. These processes are completely consistent with the purpose of the companies, because it is not on their ethics that they are judged by the market, but on their balance sheet.
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by Exnihiloest » 08/03/20, 20:57

GuyGadebois wrote:
Exnihiloest wrote:I don't know what's wrong with you.

Just a very legitimate detestation of the abject and false statements with which you drink this forum permanently. I told you it shows ... : Mrgreen:

My words offend the idealists lost in their illusions, who spend their time accusing others, institutions, companies, of all evils, incapable of being able to make sense of things. I think that is what happened there and that you are trying to recover in a shabby way.

But my words especially offend the fachos of the far left or the far right (the two differentiating themselves less and less from each other), as the caricatures of Muhammad offend the Islamists. But the fachos reacting, er, how to tell you tactfully, I despise them. So their opinions on my person, uh, how to tell you tactfully, I am tormented. You can continue to rant with your usual disinformation, your personal attacks, and your peremptory opinions expressed without any competence on all the subjects, I will face it if I have a moment to lose to read you.
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by GuyGadebois » 08/03/20, 21:08

Exnihiloest wrote:I think that is what happened there and that you are trying to recover in a shabby way.

Dare you say then that on a post where he never intervenes he dared to write: "So there, well done!
Homeopathy returned to nothing by a flawless demonstration (and a reason to live less for Janic, there it is hard : Lol: ). "
Did you say "lousy way"? : Lol: : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:
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Re: Patent the living




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by Exnihiloest » 08/03/20, 21:15

Your amalgams are also shabby
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by GuyGadebois » 08/03/20, 21:16

Exnihiloest wrote:Your amalgams are also shabby

Sorry, I'm not a dentist.
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