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Re: Patent the living




by GuyGadebois » 07/03/20, 20:20

Exnihiloest wrote:Uncultivated.

Of course ... it's so simple.
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Re: Patent the living




by Exnihiloest » 07/03/20, 21:20

GuyGadebois wrote:Unsurpassable


Of course ... it's so simple.
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by GuyGadebois » 07/03/20, 21:25

Uncultivated.
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Re: Patent the living




by Exnihiloest » 08/03/20, 09:01

by GuyGadebois »07/03/20, 20:20:

GuyGadebois wrote:
Exnihiloest wrote:So if it is patentable, it is because it is not already listed.
So multinationals can only appropriate what they create, GMO or not.

Unbreakable ... : roll:

The anteriority of the insults always comes from GuyGadebois.
We can no longer express anything that displeases him without him leaving in a floading of posts with insulting cookie-cutter reflections against his interlocutor. And when you answer, he blames you for his own practices!

It seems that on the forum from econologie.com, personal attack becomes the rule against those who are not in the party line. Hello the Stalinist atmosphere.
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Re: Patent the living




by Exnihiloest » 08/03/20, 09:05

So I rephrase.

Multinationals take nothing at all except what they create. And it's not ad aeternam, a patent falls into the public domain after 20 years.
Furthermore, it is not a monopoly, no one prevents anyone from transforming the living and from patenting their own discoveries. Genetic sequencing is even within the reach of the biohacker (the real ones, not the hissers who do anything on themselves). Still it would be necessary to move the brains a little, and it is a little less simple than to grumble against the multinationals.
https://www.lemonde.fr/le-monde-2/artic ... 04868.html

Finally, a patent is only acceptable if it presents innovation, so goes beyond what would be a simple confiscation of the living:
Patentability criteria
- Novelty: the invention must be new, that is to say it must not relate to an innovation which has already been made accessible to the public
- Industrial application: the invention must be capable of industrial application, that is to say that it must be able to be manufactured or used regardless of the type of industry.
- Inventive step: the invention must involve an inventive step, that is to say, it must not be obvious from the technique known by “the person skilled in the art”.
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by Grald » 08/03/20, 10:23

Exnihiloest I don't know you but you seem to me to be a beautiful beast, besides the fact that you take me for an idiot which I appreciate moderately on the part of guy like you, you have the art of confusing the cards and bias the subjects. I hope you are well rewarded for your defense of your poor multinational. No need to discuss with rhetoric specialists (manipe?) And as you did not answer my sf questions with generalist banalities made in wiki, it would be nice to forget me and go elsewhere.
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Re: Patent the living




by Ahmed » 08/03/20, 12:02

At least with regard to French patents, an area I know well, the 3 criteria for obtaining a patent are purely theoretical. At the end of the examination of a patent filing, a set of comments is made by those responsible for it. However, even in the event of one of these criteria being refuted, generally the lack of inventiveness, the applicant can go further and obtain his patent. It is on this observation that I was led to cancel a patent which was wrongly opposed to me and which made me win my case ...
On the other hand, it must be understood that a patent, consistent or not, requires means to defend it and that there is therefore a criterion of financial power which comes into play. One of the consequences which results from this is, for example, the tactical filing of blocking or intimidation patents by sufficiently powerful groups, in order to maintain their dominance.
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Re: Patent the living




by GuyGadebois » 08/03/20, 12:49

Not only from an ethical point of view, it is scandalous, but in addition, it is shit:
By dint of crossing thousands of plants, Professor Haim Rabinowitch has conceived a fruit which rots only after three weeks. The problem is that this tomato has "no taste", he admits himself frankly. And that it has lost a large part of its nutrients ... And it's not just the tomato that is concerned. Cash Investigation analyzed, one by one, the 70 fruits and vegetables most consumed by the French. In sixty years, they have lost an average of 16% calcium, 27% vitamin C and 48% iron. In the United States, Donald Davis studied the evolution of 43 foods between 1950 and 1999. "I have come to the conclusion that this decline is partly related to the increase in yield. The more the yield increases, the less there is. nutrients in fruit, ”he explains. He explains: "In sixty years, the tomato has lost 59% of vitamin C.
https://www.bioaddict.fr/article/cash-i ... 256p1.html
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Re: Patent the living




by Ahmed » 08/03/20, 12:56

Guy, you write:
... Professor Haim Rabinowitch conceived a fruit which rots only after three weeks. The problem is that this tomato has "no taste", he admits himself frankly.

Normal, even bacteria are disgusted! :D
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Re: Patent the living




by GuyGadebois » 08/03/20, 13:06

Ahmed wrote:Guy, you write:
... Professor Haim Rabinowitch conceived a fruit which rots only after three weeks. The problem is that this tomato has "no taste", he admits himself frankly.

Normal, even bacteria are disgusted! :D

Bacteria prefer to grumble against multinationals than to brainstorm. : Lol:
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