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Re: Planet Earth overcrowded?




by Ahmed » 13/07/22, 18:26

"Ever consuming" is, in reality, only the apparent phenomenon correlative to the ability of this species to maximize the dissipation of energy. It is above all a problem of non-internalization of self-regulation which, in the case of our species, depends on the representation that each society has of its place in the universe, in other words of its own cosmogony. Long guarantor of a balance equivalent to an internal source, these cosmogonies gradually evolved in the direction that we know because of selection, selection which procured a reproductive advantage for the most dissipating societies.
The same pattern applies today to different societies, despite the almost total unification of cosmogonies; this explains, for example, the long American domination and their current aggressiveness in the face of their progressive loss of influence in an attempt, against all material logic, to preserve it.
...but that also explains the war that poutine leads in Ukraine, as an attempt to rebalance Russia's abilities to position itself in the ongoing geopolitical upheaval.
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by Christophe » 13/07/22, 19:28

Gildas wrote:In the 80s/90s, I remember a journalist's comment that the earth could shelter 40 billion people...


The good joke, it would already take, from memory, 13 planets if everyone lived with the standard of living of North Americans! : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:

So 40 billion, it may be possible but in a very simple way (0 internet, 0 IT, 0 fossil travel...) and to meet your own basic needs: food and heating...

No doubt the same level of journalism as some who have analyzed the covid crisis for 2 years...
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by Christophe » 13/07/22, 19:31

Ahmed wrote:"Ever consuming" is, in reality, only the apparent phenomenon correlative to the ability of this species to maximize the dissipation of energy.


You see too far Ahmed!

The reality is much more trivial: it's just satisfying a badly constructed ego (= on bad foundations) and incidentally, crushing that of the "neighbor" (of others in the broad sense)...by the simple accumulation of purely materials...
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 13/07/22, 20:08

Christophe wrote:The good joke, it would already take, from memory, 13 planets if everyone lived with the standard of living of North Americans! : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:

Precisely, it turns out that those who make the most kids pollute the least. Without exception. So in the long term, it will be good for the planet that there are fewer Americans and fewer Europeans. Fewer whites, in short.... : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 13/07/22, 20:21

That's true...except that they're not fucking......nothing... : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

ps: if everyone lived like Mobutu or Amin Dada, it would take 500 planets!! CON Sumerism is not exclusive to white... : Lol:

Otherwise there are (were) more racialized dictators than white eh: http://www.slate.fr/story/51013/liste-dictateurs interesting column "mustache" : Shock: : Shock: : Shock: : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:
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by Ahmed » 13/07/22, 20:37

"Trivial" means here only what is visible, not the true explanation. The ego, or any other such explanation, only applies to the means or "mode of activation" of the process, if you prefer...
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by Exnihiloest » 13/07/22, 21:47

 
Amusing everyone who denies human aspirations. The human does not aspire to live in a mud hut in the middle of a village, with 5 to 10 children, nor to cultivate his plot. He aspires to an American life, with a big house, by the beach if possible, air conditioning rather than dying of heat, the fridge of cold drinks, the food we buy, the surfboard, and the Internet. to place orders or chat to pass the time. This is why emigration is done in priority towards the West, supposed to provide all that, even if the reality is less rosy.

So your petty little ideologies against capitalism and consumption, which you nevertheless profit from, have no chance of succeeding. Even if some of the fools you manipulate end up believing that consuming is bad, and that decreasing is good, they will never make the majority and will sooner or later realize the impasse. You can't get your ideas across, simply because they go against the aspirations of people, whom you claim to know better than them what would be good for them.

You know very well that only one of your dictatorships can impose them, but that a dictatorship will never last; even communism has broken its teeth there. Count yourself, complexed losers. I have the air conditioning that keeps me cool to post this, in good conscience because convinced that this is the path to pursue for humanity, and I pay tribute to this society which allows it by promoting our material comfort. My wish is that the innumerable populations who would like to live in the West, can one day. If you think you are on earth to vegetate, preserve heritage, paralyze life and rehash your little existential problems, do not deprive yourself of doing it, but leave the progressives alone, everyone is not bad about themselves. : Lol: :P
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 13/07/22, 22:00

Exnihiloest wrote: 
Amusing everyone who denies human aspirations. The human does not aspire to live in a mud hut in the middle of a village, with 5 to 10 children, nor to cultivate his plot. He aspires to an American life, with a big house, by the beach if possible, air conditioning rather than dying of heat, the fridge of cold drinks, the food we buy, the surfboard, and the Internet. to place orders or chat to pass the time. This is why emigration is done in priority towards the West, supposed to provide all that, even if the reality is less rosy.

It's forgetting all too quickly that we don't all have the same aspirations, the same cultures or the same material needs. There are even peoples among whom the concepts of competition and/or jealousy are totally incomprehensible and therefore absent.
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by Ahmed » 13/07/22, 23:08

By postulating the American way of life (however badly off!) as an absolute reference, we first emit an absurdity since it supposes degraded living conditions among those who make it possible (but that obviously does not affect the minds of drawers) and we are guilty of circular reasoning: the criteria that correspond to this way of life are desirable and they are so because it characterizes it...
Guy is therefore quite right to point out that a non-ethnocentric vision would introduce many other ways of being in the world (desirable or not) to those who are not blinded by the imperative need to promote western infelicity offset by its consumerist ersatz.

There are even peoples among whom the concepts of competition and/or jealousy are totally incomprehensible and therefore absent.
It's hard for translators! : roll:
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 13/07/22, 23:25

Ahmed wrote: It's hard for translators! : roll:

Certainly, but at least we are certain that for a "wild" Guarani, if by chance he found that a Ferrari "is beautiful" and that he would like to have one, it would not be to show off or have a "bigger" one than its neighbour! : Mrgreen:
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