Taking into account the white votes for democracy

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Taking into account the white votes for democracy




by Christophe » 13/01/14, 11:54

White votes are not taken into account during elections in our democracies (are there perhaps some exceptions? Iceland can be?) Or white votes show citizens' disagreement with all parties / candidates and by ignoring them, the system political disregard these opinions ...

Logically and from a true democratic perspective, the white vote should therefore be taken into account (it seems to me that the subject was already tackled in a few subjects years ago).

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by elephant » 13/01/14, 12:34

You are absolutely right, Christophe:

http://democratie-nouvelle.skynetblogs. ... 66869.html

absentee-abstentionist party, first party in Belgium: people who for the most part do not vote because no party brings them what they ask for:

- prosperity
- integrity
- security
- listening by the public authorities
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by Christophe » 13/01/14, 12:43

Absolutely, but we must not assimilate a blank vote, a void vote and an abstention even if in fact in the current system this is in fact ...

Absentees are always wrong! Now a blank vote is a protest vote ...

The fact that the blank vote was not taken into account clearly shows a desire not to question policies ... and which to a certain extent despise protest votes ...

Why not take it into account to start with, for small ballots for example? Municipal in France for example ...
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by Ahmed » 13/01/14, 18:47

Abstention can also be a sign of contestation, more radical than that expressed by the blank vote, however it retains a good dose of indeterminacy of its real motives ...

It is doubtful that if the white votes were taken into account and that they were massive, it would lead to the elimination of the oligarchy, as the panel of "citizens of the white vote" suggests.
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by Janic » 13/01/14, 20:18

Absentees are always wrong! Now a blank vote is a protest vote ...
A protest that is not clearly expressed has no more value than an abstention or a invalid vote
The fact that the blank vote was not taken into account clearly shows a desire not to question policies ... and which to a certain extent despise protest votes ...
A politician refused to choose between the plague and cholera, stressing that when you can't find the right shoe, the solution is not to put anything down. However, a blank vote does not fit properly. As for abstention, it's like walking barefoot, it remains to know the state of the ground on which everyone walks.
Why not take it into account to start with, for small ballots for example? Municipal in France for example ...
It wouldn't change much, if anything at all!
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by delnoram » 21/01/14, 19:53

Christophe wrote:A blank vote is a protest vote ...


Must see, François Bayrou, before the 2nd round of the Presidential election, said:
"I wouldn't vote white, because that would be indecision."

if politicians consider white voting to be indecisive, isn't its protesting nature likely to be seriously altered?
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by Ahmed » 21/01/14, 21:29

There is clearly a conflict of interest in this kind of opinion: since policies depend on universal suffrage, they should not be expected to contest it! :D
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by Janic » 22/01/14, 09:26

universal suffrage, they stamp it as the vote on Europe showed. Politicians pretend to be democrats but in fact follow their own will linked to the economy which rules the world.
So all the better for them that there are blank votes at least these will not be opposition votes and this allows them to continue to toy between initiates.
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by Ahmed » 22/01/14, 14:40

Janic, we did not understand each other well: the politicians worry about universal suffrage to be elected, it is only after that they "stamp themselves" and play the game of their real masters!

So we agree! 8)
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by raymon » 22/01/14, 17:57

Conclusion representative democracy is a lure only solution referendums, the draw or at least the proportional integral for all our representatives. white voting in this system anyway will not do much.
Or to put it another way, true democracy of the kind proposed by Étienne Chouard or happening in Switzerland.
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