janic wrote: it does not mean anything because on what criteria will be determined the teachings in question, Catholicism which united the best brains in its elitist "educational" systems has shown the results and dangers by the conditioning that this generates.
I did not speak of hyper specialized teaching but of quality teaching nuance.
I am not talking either of hyper-specialized education, but of general education and Catholic universities (followed by the same in secular version, that is to say in opposition to its predecessors) only used specialists in packaging, a sign of quality verified in its results.
Each education within the framework of a school system, university even more, obviously depends on the teacher himself, but also and
surtout of what will be taught, and there it is not good to think outside the box because conformism, well or badly taught, remains conformism attached not only to the knowledge of the moment, but also and above all to the acceptance or the refusal of what is taught (by a specialized body or simply by its close environment such as parents.) as dogmas.
For some years now there has been a trend towards the privatization of education which tends to increase inequalities.
It does not matter the public or private framework when the speech remains the same.
We have had many debates on the evolution which represents the very example of this framework, today imposed as a reaction to another framework also imposed previously. However if the approach is the same, quality or not, the result will also be the same: conditioning, unique point of view, totalitarianism of thought as soon as possible on malleable minds, impossibility or prohibition of different opinions subject to exclusion of principle.
In medicine, science, environment, religion, etc.
Same debates that we had (and which lasts with Izentrop who does not let go the piece sign of conviction and perseverance) on the vaccine miracle replacing religious miracles, but
on the same basis namely the salvation of bodies, following that of souls, by a symbolic gesture where the crucifix is replaced by the syringe, in the name of omnipotent science in every way comparable to the name of all previous divine omnipotence Dogs are not made with cats.
For those who have the means it is possible to have access to schools which train their pupils very well, there is no question of conditioning since these are classic school programs.
As you point out "
classic school programs »Which classic, by the way, decided by whom, with what prior objective (which is no longer simply to read, write, count and say hello to the master.) But to prepare these minds to adapt to the system… classic in place: Classical medicine, classical agriculture, and of course classical education, etc… which are only recent and therefore precisely non-classical, that is the conditioning in question!
When you speak several languages at the end of your schooling.
the great deal, already mastering your own language, with its many nuances it takes a lifetime, then that of others!
and that an average of 18/20 is displayed, it is easier to integrate a university or professional training with an outlet
Another characteristic of the weakness of the system itself, such as the spirit of competition with good grades (or what takes its place) valuing the "best" and relegating the rest (the podiums are reserved for the first 3 and the rest is only good to value them.)
Unfortunately, and I speak with full knowledge of the facts, there are many areas in France where teaching becomes difficult and where school failure becomes the rule.
It is not school failure that is the rule, it is wanting to get children into a mold who are not made to enter it and who therefore are considered to be the sweep, while failure is due to system itself which should, on the contrary, support the less "deserving" (sic) to make them understand that there is no better or worse, but that everyone has their place in this vast world according to their gifts and aspirations, which are to be valued, even if they come out of the mold.
However, encouraging personal reflection, outside of the systems selected, has never produced anything but revolutions which have always been the major fear of the systems in place. However, being taught, in a limited and specialized manner in certain fields, only generates a crowd of ignorant people in others and this prevents (with a few rare exceptions) a global analysis outside the imposed system.
You are going too far, I am just talking about having a draw up education, knowing how to count, reading knowing one or two foreign languages, mastering a profession, nothing more!
You can never go far enough, it is the short view that is dramatic. History is only a constant repetition, "
what has always been and will always be And the past, with its repetitive failures, is of little use in drawing lessons for the present and especially for the future of individuals.
Because it is no longer knowing how to read, write and count that is currently in place (it only takes a short time) but competition for success (what does this word mean for the majority of our fellow citizens, if not accessing the most remunerated positions reserved for an elite well selected according to the current economic needs (and not, more at all, to develop the one who wants to know) regardless of the very sense of responsibility of these. And the rest, just good at sweeping the gutters with the consolation of no longer being a sweeper, but a surface technician, still just as poorly regarded and also poorly paid.
But at the same time, we are all in this system which suits us in many aspects, which we criticize in principle, but which we would have great difficulty in changing individually (except punctually) as collectively. so we do with, made with power or want to do better!
"We make science with facts, like making a house with stones: but an accumulation of facts is no more a science than a pile of stones is a house" Henri Poincaré
) as you say is not at all part of the creationists, if he uses the terminology "creation" it is only because this one is part of our culture, this one having been largely influenced by the Bible.
