Remundo wrote:So guys ... yeah it's great the UK, it's huge, societal caviar, individual freedom, social, economic, in short the Holy Grail, as I read "we se will ask how we could have done without before ".
OOOKAYYY!
It's called the scarecrow fallacy.
It consists in reformulating the opposing thesis by simplifying and distorting it, and then in criticizing it since it is then much easier. Who says fallacy says false reasoning.
Remundo wrote: And we also have to see how we will finance the UK. If it's endless debt, or if it's additional taxes. A little of both probably, both are harmful.
So, additional debt or taxes? Cheese AND dessert.
I am going to tell you, for me the UK is a shady thing because desired by both the gauchos and also by the ultraliberals ... who never specify the funding.
First, pay taxes. Isn't it claimed that GAFAs wouldn't pay their taxes?
Then that the centralized power regains control over taxation and its use, and no longer lets the municipalities, departments and regions do anything about spending. There is a great deal of waste on their part, not only in the allocation of the budget by choices that do not promote the general interest of the republic but specific local interests, but also in the jobs themselves in the regions used for manage this decentralization. See eg.
https://lexpansion.lexpress.fr/actualit ... 89057.html or this book which revealed the extent of the mismanagement, especially in jobs:
https://www.lepoint.fr/economie/les-ver ... 785_28.php . And I'm not even talking about embezzlement.
Managed in this way, a private company would have already gone bankrupt. But with our taxes, it's easy, you just have to increase them. I heard a mayor interviewed daring to say: "we have spent more, so it's normal to increase local taxes"! In the same vein: "I made more purchases this year, it is normal to increase my salary", here is where is the stupidity of all these small local potentates who have no competence to manage a budget and often not the necessary ethics either. I'm not saying that centralization is the panacea, but at least we have an economy of scale, and in the event of a problem we know whose fault is.
So before talking about additional taxes for a new UK budget, it might be good if your requirements first apply to obtaining efficient, thrifty, and job-free management of the existing budget ( and while the national civil service is often understaffed). Without so much waste linked to the fragmentation of decentralized management (regions, departments, municipalities ...) and the absence of serious controls, it is perhaps the UK that we could pay instead of the RSA. And there I only pointed out a flagrant sector, but there are others, mismanagement, and also centralized (see how much costs a former president of the republic, the allowances of deputies or others).