The post-Coronavirus world

[Christophe]

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[ABC2019]

Article reserved for subscribers ... the report in French https://ipbes.net/sites/default/files/2 ... inal_0.pdf

. An estimated 1,7 million
"undiscovered" viruses currently present in mammals and birds,
of which 827 could have the capacity to infect humans.
“There is no great mystery about the cause of the COVID-19 pandemic, or any other
modern pandemic, ”said Dr. Peter Daszak, President of EcoHealth Alliance and
the IPBES workshop. “These are the same human activities that are at the origin of
climate change, loss of biodiversity and, through their impacts on our
environment, the risk of a pandemic. Changes in the way we
use the land, the expansion and intensification of agriculture, as well as trade,
unsustainable production and consumption disrupt nature and increase contact
between wildlife, livestock, pathogens and humans. It's a
path that leads straight to pandemics. "

It promises ... solutions in the report.

It seems completely silly to me to say that we are more in contact with wildlife than in the pre-industrial period, where almost everyone wandered in forests and fields, and where a lot more wild animals were consumed. more nutty pseudo-science propagated by an activist who uses anything and everything to support his biased views. There were obviously much larger pandemics before, and the Spanish did not need to consume fossils to bring their viruses to the Amerindians.

All in all, the hypothesis of a virus escaping from a laboratory seems more plausible to me.

[Christophe]

exact abc but the conquistadors did not have the boost of emerging diseases of permafrost which disappears and that we are lucky to have and which is linked to it in the fossil ... for the moment nothing has proven that sars cov2 does not could not have come from there ... at least in part ...

[Janic]

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It seems completely silly to me to say that we are more in contact with wildlife than in the pre-industrial period, where almost everyone wandered in forests and fields, and where a lot more wild animals were consumed. more nutty pseudo-science propagated by an activist who uses anything and everything to support his biased views. There were obviously much larger pandemics before, and the Spanish did not need to consume fossils to bring their viruses to the Amerindians.

it is this thinking that is stupid. It's like comparing cabbages to carrots. The living conditions were different and contacts with wildlife were not distorted by our interventions on our environment and the destruction of its fragile balances. Human madness has led it to a sort of collective suicide by preventing natural selection guaranteeing the survival of the most robust, the most able to survive, and we are then surprised that this fragility is more and more accentuated. to the point of not even being able to resist viruses, bacteria and fungi of all kinds.

more nutty pseudo-science propagated by an activist who uses anything and everything to support his biased views.

There were obviously much larger pandemics before, and the Spanish did not need to consume fossils to bring their viruses to the Amerindians.

Pandemics brought about by a society without a healthy lifestyle because they decimated the Spaniards as much as the Amerindians (made slaves as usual) and it was not only the microbes that decimated them, but here again and always the alcoholism and the lack of respect for their ancestral customs with protective virtues.
It is only to observe what is happening now with this common virus which turns, as if by chance, into a villain who wants harm to its carriers. Fortunately our modern shamans are there to make magical incantations with their miracle cure which is vaccination, like the ancient civilizations considered as superstitious and if that is not also superstition: what could the to be more?

[Obamot]

That's exactly it Janic, it is currently the geek who consider themselves “at the cutting edge of technology with science for eux “who are the most backward, and conservative ... who make (fierce) resistance to change, do not see the real threats they are so self-assured, and so backward and corrupt (the one inevitably goes with the other) since they are still the ones who led the world into the covid debacle .... Everything is there in the table including the messiah (vaccine) who goes “save humanity“... So pathetic, they have learned absolutely nothing!

And their survival reflex is of course “to assassinate” the real scientists (who inevitably come out of line)
Because they could overshadow them! A must see

[Janic]

since they are still the ones who led the world into the covid debacle .... Everything is in the picture including the messiah (vaccine) who will “save humanity” ... So pathetic, they don ' have learned absolutely nothing!

"there is nothing new under the sun, said Solomon, all that has already been and will be!"It's the law of the genre between conservatives and progressives!

And their survival reflex is of course “to assassinate” the real scientists (who inevitably come out of line)
Because they could overshadow them! A must see

one of the best recent example is Montagnier with his discovery of HIV (not to be confused with AIDS!) which was on the classic side of research for therapeutic purposes, but above all financial of course!
Which Montagnier was raised to the skies like Pasteur was, until he declared that this HIV was a virus like any other and that a good hygiene of life was enough to make it harmless (thus tying everything down the medical marketing expected with his discovery; and not because he subsequently espoused Benveniste's theses which served as a support to ridicule him by the same pseudo-pseudo-scientists).

[ABC2019]

exact abc but the conquistadors did not have the boost of emerging diseases of permafrost which disappears and that we are lucky to have and which is linked to it in the fossil ... for the moment nothing has proven that sars cov2 does not could not have come from there ... at least in part ...

finally, unless I'm mistaken, it has been limited for the moment to an epidemic of anthrax having killed 2500 reindeer and a shepherd (anthrax is transmitted from animal to man but not or very little from man to man), which may have been been in contact with an old thawed carcass (and yet we have no certainty about this). We are not going to kill the world population with that either ... compared to bird flu, it's a mess, another thing blown up by journalists!

Besides, there again, coal was much more common before.

[Christophe]

Do you realize the arrogance of your answer?

You don't know at all!

[ABC2019]

Do you realize the arrogance of your answer?

You don't know at all!

in any case it is the only recent epidemic in the permafrost region that I have heard of .... but if there are other cases I am a taker.

[Christophe]

which I have heard of .... but if there are other cases I am a taker.

Here is the arrogance that I wanted to point out: you suppose that we know all the cases of viral or bacterial release ... and that they have all been published somewhere ...

No no no, we don't know everything ...

Nothing personal, I speak in general!