The post-Coronavirus world

[Christophe]

Little reminder...

Biologist Gilles Boeuf fears the arrival of a much more deadly pandemic if nothing is changed

This eminent French biologist, recently installed in Bordeaux, warns us. You have to find another type of growth and consume differently. Stop destroying, polluting, over-exploiting, disseminating. If nothing is done, perhaps more serious pandemics could multiply.

https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr ... 30660.html

[Obamot]

This is one of the very first courageous to say what it would be worth doing.

That and completely revise the “Codex Alimentarius” (which allows toxic compounds in our food )

[Christophe]

The consequences of Covid-19 in Thailand, where bankruptcies have multiplied and the tourism industry has collapsed, may result in more deaths than the virus itself: 2 people have committed suicide in the kingdom between the months of January and July, just revealed a statistic from the Ministry of Health. This represents an increase of 551% compared to the first six months of 22.

In terms of health, the management of the epidemic has proved to be one of the most remarkable at the global level: around 3 cases of infection and "only" 500 ​​deaths for 59 million inhabitants ... But the economic crisis and the anxiety it arouses in part of the population has prompted a growing number of people to end their lives. Even if all suicides are of course not necessarily linked to the social economic effects of the epidemic ...

https://www.lemonde.fr/international/ar ... _3210.html

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

The consequences of Covid-19 in Thailand, where bankruptcies have multiplied and the tourism industry has collapsed, may result in more deaths than the virus itself: 2 people have committed suicide in the kingdom between the months of January and July, just revealed a statistic from the Ministry of Health. This represents an increase of 551% compared to the first six months of 22.

In terms of health, the management of the epidemic has proved to be one of the most remarkable at the global level: around 3 cases of infection and "only" 500 ​​deaths for 59 million inhabitants ... But the economic crisis and the anxiety it arouses in part of the population has prompted a growing number of people to end their lives. Even if all suicides are of course not necessarily linked to the social economic effects of the epidemic ...

https://www.lemonde.fr/international/ar ... _3210.html

To see what it will give us.

[Obamot]

I have always said that the collateral consequences of the shutdown of the economy because of covid-19 would kill more people than the virus.

But more insidiously, like infant mortality which jumped to 6 deaths per day (including many babies who could not receive the care they should have since the whole health system has reoriented itself around care of cocid-000 patients)


There in this country, the difference will make “only” 561 more deaths, or 0,0008% of the population, if we remove the deaths from road accidents. that there has not been due to the decline in economic activity ” > 20 per year https://www.thailande-fr.com/societe/81 ... blique/amp maybe it will compensate ... isn't the worst yet to come?

Global assessment to be made at the end of 2021 ...

[Christophe]

This morning on Europe1: economy-finance / public-debt-bankruptcy-of-greece-in-turn-t9654-1510.html

[Gaston]

I have always said that the collateral consequences of the shutdown of the economy because of covid-19 would kill more people than the virus.

This does not imply that there would not have been even more deaths in total without the "shut down" ...

Global assessment to be made at the end of 2021 ...

We can only take stock of what has been done, not what we could have done differently.

[Obamot]

While you're at it, what will we say about the political tango with the wearing of a mask, deemed unnecessary at the start - quite simply because there was no stock - then made mandatory then ... will still have the exemplary South Korean model for comparison, like all the Asian countries which had worn the mask in public places for years ... Long before SARS.

I have always said that the collateral consequences of the shutdown of the economy due to covid-19 would kill more people than the virus.

This does not imply that there would not have been even more deaths in total without the "shut down" ...

I note your remarks with interest. Indeed, but note that Sweden has not confined. So we wait to compare mortality, differentiate it with those of all other diseases (with scores that must remain within the usual averages, to be sure that the figures will not have been biased (but if for some countries, the temptation will be great ...)

Global assessment to be made at the end of 2021 ...

We can only take stock of what has been done, not what we could have done differently.

Yes. You can however compare from one country to another, with similar healthcare systems and different healthcare policies, right?
I think it is always possible, with caution, to make correlations a posteriori ...

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

I have always said that the collateral consequences of the shutdown of the economy because of covid-19 would kill more people than the virus.

This does not imply that there would not have been even more deaths in total without the "shut down" ...

Global assessment to be made at the end of 2021 ...

We can only take stock of what has been done, not what we could have done differently.

this argument is funny

This does not imply that there would not have been even more deaths in total without the "shut down"
as you say so well
We can only take stock of what has been done, not what we could have done differently.

So according to your argument ...
This does not imply that there would not have been even more deaths in total without the "shut down"
We will never know ...

[Christophe]

It's not wrong ... although ... !!